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Re: ATL: ERIKA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1921 Postby CYCLONE MIKE » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:13 pm

This storm looks pretty awful. Looks like it just ran into brick wall. Im leaning with what hammy posted earlier regardless what models show. Could very well be an open wave come tomorrow morning.
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Re: ATL: ERIKA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1922 Postby psyclone » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:16 pm

CYCLONE MIKE wrote:This storm looks pretty awful. Looks like it just ran into brick wall. Im leaning with what hammy posted earlier regardless what models show. Could very well be an open wave come tomorrow morning.

That potential has always been on the table but this thing keeps surviving...so far.
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Re: ATL: ERIKA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1923 Postby stormhunter7 » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:17 pm

Based on the data from Nexrad and the AF Recon data.. i think and believe the old center is dissipating and a new one has formed to the north along southern coast of PR. We really want know until recon makes a pass up there (if they have the fuel) and see what this vortex on radar is that is rolling to the due west off the cost of Puerto Rico.
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#1924 Postby galaxy401 » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:19 pm

At this point there is probably a game going on with Erika named "Spot the Center!" Giant circus act the storm is throwing. :lol:
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#1925 Postby Hurricaneman » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:22 pm

galaxy401 wrote:At this point there is probably a game going on with Erika named "Spot the Center!" Giant circus act the storm is throwing. :lol:


Honestly with this poor organization this IMO is just a tropical wave

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Re: ATL: ERIKA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1926 Postby SouthFLTropics » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:24 pm

I just looked at the RGB satellite imagery and if you look real close
you can see the center south of St. Croix and it appears to headed off WNW towards PR. The vort showing on San Juan radar is just cyclonic turning around the larger gyre. Center is right where recon pegged it.
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#1927 Postby Recurve » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:24 pm

Hurricaneman wrote:
galaxy401 wrote:At this point there is probably a game going on with Erika named "Spot the Center!" Giant circus act the storm is throwing. :lol:


Honestly with this poor organization this IMO is just a tropical wave

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Beg to differ. It's not.
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Re: ATL: ERIKA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1928 Postby hurricanedude » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:24 pm

tell the people in St Croix its a wave...60+ mph gusts.....strong wave indeed
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#1929 Postby HurriGuy » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:25 pm

Lots of west wind being found
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#1930 Postby AutoPenalti » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:25 pm

Hurricaneman wrote:
galaxy401 wrote:At this point there is probably a game going on with Erika named "Spot the Center!" Giant circus act the storm is throwing. :lol:


Honestly with this poor organization this IMO is just a tropical wave

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As long as there is some sort of closed circulation, NHC will still classify it as a T.D. or T.S.
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#1931 Postby SouthFLTropics » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:25 pm

Hurricaneman wrote:
galaxy401 wrote:At this point there is probably a game going on with Erika named "Spot the Center!" Giant circus act the storm is throwing. :lol:


Honestly with this poor organization this IMO is just a tropical wave

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We're getting VDM's from recon so it is definitely still closed off at the surface.
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#1932 Postby CrazyC83 » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:25 pm

The VDM had a 1011 pressure in the remnant center...I doubt there is a surface center there, even if there is one at 10,000 feet. The surface data suggests that St. Croix just missed a surface LLC though.
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Re: ATL: ERIKA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1933 Postby hurricanedude » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:27 pm

not a wave..not a TD its a storm...for the ones who doubt it well.....thats why you arent employed at the NHC...LOL J/K folks
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#1934 Postby Hurricaneman » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:28 pm

Looking at it now it seems to be the center is where Dvorak put it between the convective areas

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Re: ATL: ERIKA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1935 Postby abajan » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:28 pm

hurricanedude wrote:tell the people in St Croix its a wave...60+ mph gusts.....strong wave indeed
Just FYI, we had a TW affect Barbados back in the mid 1980s with winds that strong.
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Re: ATL: ERIKA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1936 Postby SouthFLTropics » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:29 pm

Hurricaneman wrote:Looking at it now it seems to be the center is where Dvorak put it between the convective areas

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+1...agreed
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Re: ATL: ERIKA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1937 Postby Hammy » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:29 pm

CYCLONE MIKE wrote:This storm looks pretty awful. Looks like it just ran into brick wall. Im leaning with what hammy posted earlier regardless what models show. Could very well be an open wave come tomorrow morning.


My post was more that the shear would keep it in check long enough to prevent a turn until it reaches DR, not that the shear itself would kill it. Were there no land to it's north I would have no doubt about the model intensities, it's just a question of will it be shredded by land before it can make it to better conditions since the lack of intensification is keeping it on a westward track.
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Re: ATL: ERIKA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1938 Postby hurricanedude » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:31 pm

point is this isnt a wave.....
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#1939 Postby HurriGuy » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:32 pm

If that truly is the main vortex south of PR, then I wish recon would hit that up
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#1940 Postby Hurricaneman » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:33 pm

HurriGuy wrote:If that truly is the main vortex south of PR, then I wish recon would hit that up


probably just an eddy at this point and probably will fade

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