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#1961 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:02 am

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#1962 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:03 am

I am feeling more uncertain about what may happen..
will a stronger center go into the NW caribbean or will a
stronger center go north of cuba if/as a new center forms
over cuba? or too early to tell?

sorry if my questions get annoying :D
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#1963 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:04 am

in the image hurakan posted it looks like
the strongest low is north of cuba
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#1964 Postby Vortex » Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:05 am

LLC and MLC have decoupled..Lets se what happens when it reaches the carribean sea late this afternoon
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#1965 Postby NcentralFlaguy » Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:06 am

per cuban radar, the LLC is nearing the coast .in fact a portion is already over water in that little bay or gulf of whatever.
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#1966 Postby wzrgirl1 » Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:06 am

how can you tell it has decoupled?
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#1967 Postby Vortex » Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:07 am

Hi-Res visible is an easy read..There is NO mystery folks. The LLC continues W towards the carribean sea..
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#1968 Postby wzrgirl1 » Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:08 am

so now we have to wait and see if convection forms over the new LLC or is it the same LLC that has just separated from the rest?
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#1969 Postby Nimbus » Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:10 am

So tonight the NHC splits and doubles down. The center north of Cuba turns northeast near Andros island and the Carib energy misses the trough because it is weaker?
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#1970 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:10 am

Vortex wrote:Hi-Res visible is an easy read..There is NO mystery folks. The LLC continues W towards the carribean sea..



Looks like Reformation is a strong possibilty N of cuba right now as it moves WNW Vortex..
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#1971 Postby Thunder44 » Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:13 am

The 12z GFS keeps the LLC and MLC seperated for the about the next 48hrs. The LLC doesn't reform under the MLC until the entire system turns to the NE away from Florida.
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#1972 Postby cycloneye » Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:22 am

DESTRUCTION5 wrote:
Vortex wrote:Hi-Res visible is an easy read..There is NO mystery folks. The LLC continues W towards the carribean sea..



Looks like Reformation is a strong possibilty N of cuba right now as it moves WNW Vortex..


Bingo! Destruction5
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#1973 Postby tgenius » Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:24 am

You know its been a quiet season for mainland US when a borderline TS is making headlines! :D
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#1974 Postby NcentralFlaguy » Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:25 am

Although there may be a center re-location in the near future, it is not happening now. Just scroll back to page 71 look at the cuban radar and you will clearly see the LLC half offshore already to the south and will be completely offshore soon. The convection is hot on its tail also. no evidence of any other low level circ anywhere else on that radar, and it goes out a good way.like vortex said it prob wont have much of an effect on the outcome. but it is what it is now...looks like a duck..flies like a duck its probably a duck, right now its a duck
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#1975 Postby Bgator » Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:27 am

Looking at latest Cuban radar it looks like the original LLC is starting to turn more NW now.
They dont have the best radar though.
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#1976 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:30 am

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#1977 Postby curtadams » Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:30 am

It certainly *looks* like LLC and MLC have decoupled. But the MLC isn't acting like a decoupled MLC. Decoupled MLCs drift with the upper winds, which should send it off to the NE. But it's plugging away WNW. So either they are still connected and we're seeing a very sheared system or the MLC has already formed some kind of LLC to anchor it.
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#1978 Postby NcentralFlaguy » Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:30 am

a side not the current still image of the wv loop...kinda looks like an alien with its hair on fire :lol:
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#1979 Postby Steve H. » Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:31 am

Yeah right now the main LCC is still inland in Cuba. There MAY be a reformation in the works but the LLC is still strong inland. Such a reformation may destroy the system, but more than likely it will eventually move off the coast north of Cuba at some point in the next 24 hours, so the outcome would be the same. 12Z CMC shows Noel just to the south of Cuba at 24 hours, then just off the coast of West Palm at 996 mb, then off to the NE.
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#1980 Postby Sanibel » Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:31 am

Making the turn now up the spine of Cuba.

Good structure.
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