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#21 Postby Vortex » Thu Sep 30, 2010 1:28 pm

"something" either side of PR looks like a good bet in 5 days...
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Re: ATL : INVEST 97L - Models

#22 Postby SouthFloridawx » Thu Sep 30, 2010 1:34 pm

cycloneye wrote:The Tropical Model Bams have not been updated since the first run at 06z.


Not sure why... We still have a best track...

AL, 97, 2010093012, , BEST, 0, 120N, 490W, 25, 1009, DB, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
AL, 97, 2010093018, , BEST, 0, 120N, 510W, 25, 1009, DB, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
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#23 Postby Vortex » Thu Sep 30, 2010 1:35 pm

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Re: ATL : INVEST 97L - Models

#24 Postby SouthFloridawx » Thu Sep 30, 2010 1:36 pm

This was the last one

http://twister.sbs.ohio-state.edu/tropical/atlantic/model/?C=M;O=D

706
WHXX01 KWBC 300743
CHGHUR
TROPICAL CYCLONE GUIDANCE MESSAGE
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
0743 UTC THU SEP 30 2010

DISCLAIMER...NUMERICAL MODELS ARE SUBJECT TO LARGE ERRORS.
PLEASE REFER TO NHC OFFICIAL FORECASTS FOR TROPICAL CYCLONE
AND SUBTROPICAL CYCLONE INFORMATION.

ATLANTIC OBJECTIVE AIDS FOR

DISTURBANCE INVEST (AL972010) 20100930 0600 UTC

...00 HRS... ...12 HRS... ...24 HRS. .. ...36 HRS...
100930 0600 100930 1800 101001 0600 101001 1800
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#25 Postby Vortex » Thu Sep 30, 2010 1:38 pm

H144 central carribean...complex look



http://raleighwx.easternuswx.com/models ... SLP144.gif
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#26 Postby Vortex » Thu Sep 30, 2010 1:39 pm

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#27 Postby Vortex » Thu Sep 30, 2010 1:41 pm

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#28 Postby Vortex » Thu Sep 30, 2010 1:42 pm

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Re: ATL : INVEST 97L - Models

#29 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 30, 2010 1:44 pm

SouthFloridawx wrote:
cycloneye wrote:The Tropical Model Bams have not been updated since the first run at 06z.


Not sure why... We still have a best track...

AL, 97, 2010093012, , BEST, 0, 120N, 490W, 25, 1009, DB, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
AL, 97, 2010093018, , BEST, 0, 120N, 510W, 25, 1009, DB, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,

Maybe, they are waiting for more consolidation to then run the models again.
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#30 Postby GCANE » Thu Sep 30, 2010 1:45 pm




CMC follows suite on the midwest cut-off low.

GFS shows the cut-off low weaker and further east.


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#31 Postby Vortex » Thu Sep 30, 2010 1:48 pm

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#32 Postby Vortex » Thu Sep 30, 2010 1:55 pm

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#33 Postby Vortex » Thu Sep 30, 2010 1:57 pm

In some ways the pattern reminds me a bit of Hurricane Kate in November that went through the FL keys and a landfall in the panhandle…
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Re: ATL : INVEST 97L - Models

#34 Postby SouthFloridawx » Thu Sep 30, 2010 1:57 pm

If you run the loop, it's not as... confusing. Still a little, but showing it going out to sea...

http://raleighwx.easternuswx.com/models/euro/00zeurotropical850mbVortSLP_loop.html
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#35 Postby gatorcane » Thu Sep 30, 2010 1:57 pm

Huge trough waiting for 97L on the 12Z ECMWF. It keep showing a recurve well east of the U.S. Troughiness rules in 2010!

http://www.ecmwf.int/products/forecasts ... 0093000!!/
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#36 Postby Vortex » Thu Sep 30, 2010 1:58 pm

H240..takes off NE and part of the split of energy spins up over the SW carribean...


http://raleighwx.easternuswx.com/models ... SLP240.gif
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#37 Postby gatorcane » Thu Sep 30, 2010 2:00 pm

Vortex wrote:H240..takes off NE and part of the split of energy spins up over the SW carribean...


http://raleighwx.easternuswx.com/models ... SLP240.gif


240 hours away. I will see it to believe it :)
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#38 Postby dwsqos2 » Thu Sep 30, 2010 2:05 pm

500 mb heights were greater than or equal to 588 dm over the Southeast for much of Kate's existence. How on earth the Euro reminds anyone of the synoptic pattern of late November 1985 is beyond me.
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#39 Postby KWT » Thu Sep 30, 2010 2:15 pm

gatorcane wrote:Huge trough waiting for 97L on the 12Z ECMWF. It keep showing a recurve well east of the U.S. Troughiness rules in 2010!

http://www.ecmwf.int/products/forecasts ... 0093000!!/


Yeah pretty obvious but its right now very far south, the system is down at 11N and is still heading westwards looking at the predict data and sat.imagery...thats probably south enough to mean its going to have to curve up through the islands...
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#40 Postby hurricaneCW » Thu Sep 30, 2010 2:23 pm

gatorcane wrote:Huge trough waiting for 97L on the 12Z ECMWF. It keep showing a recurve well east of the U.S. Troughiness rules in 2010!

http://www.ecmwf.int/products/forecasts ... 0093000!!/


Troughiness is more or less a given now that we're going to be in October. That being said, there is a collage of systems in the around the Caribbean and just to the east of there, so it's very uncertain what will develop. The next few weeks are going to be a mess just like what we dealt with from Matthew/Nicole.

This invest and the other lows around it are more so going to be a topic of discussion next week. As far as the track, who knows at this point if anything will develop and where it will go. Also the ECMWF shows more of a strong cut off low then a regular trough, notice how slowing it's progressing eastward, that's something extra to keep in mind.
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