Rainband wrote:No one knows. I say when our job is done, we will leave. As for prophecy... thats a bit deep for me
Awwwwwwwww.....come on bilblical prophecy not working for you...



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Rainband wrote:No one knows. I say when our job is done, we will leave. As for prophecy... thats a bit deep for me
stormchazer wrote:zwyts wrote:Hopefully we'll pull out as soon as possible. Young soldiers have been ill-prepared and ill-informed and are sitting ducks as is evidenced almost everyday. The Iraq war is like a comedy of errors with a dunce as the orchestrator, but unfortunately there is no comedy involved, just tragedy. The ultimate irony is that the three people most hawkish on the war, and the quickest to rush in with their heads cut off are the same three who displayed the ultimate cowardice during Vietnam by avoiding it like the plague. If we are lucky, Kerry will win and although he is flawed and imperfect, he doesn't have a categorical lack of self-awareness and context like Bush II.
Did you get that off of MoveOn.org? I am sure our armed forces appreciate your candor and total lack of confidence. Frankly, you have no clue on what this War is really about. It is a test of wills, and if we were to count on yours or John Kerry's. we have already lost.
Take for instance Vietnam. This is from the very left NPR news site:
The Vietnam War started with a slower death rate. The United States had been involved in Vietnam for six years before total fatalities surpassed 500 in 1965, the year President Lyndon Johnson ordered a massive buildup of forces. There were 20,000 troops in Vietnam by the end of 1964. There were more than 200,000 a year later.
By the end of 1966, U.S. combat deaths in Vietnam had reached 3,910. By 1968, the peak of U.S. involvement, there were more than 500,000 troops in the country. During the first two weeks of April that year, 752 U.S. soldiers died, according to a search of records kept by the National Archives. About 58,000 U.S. troops were killed in the Vietnam War.
Note in the first year that only 20,000 troops were in Vietnam, and mostly as advisers, not frontline troops.
How about these stats from Korea and Vietnam:
Korea
Months of combat 37
Battle Deaths 33,629
Other Deaths 20,617
Wounds 103,284
Total Casualties 157,530
Battle deaths per month 909
Other deaths per month 557
Wounds per month 2,791
Total per month 4,257
Vietnam
Months of combat 101
Battle deaths 47,321
Other deaths 10,700
Wounds 153,303
Total casualties 211,324
Battle deaths per month 469
Other deaths per month 106
Wounds per month 1,518
Total per month 2,092
...or the biggie, World War II:
World War II (1940–1945)
Total servicemembers 16,112,566
Battle deaths 291,557
Other deaths in service (nontheater) 113,842
Avg Death Per month 9,213
I'd rather have a dunce as a leader, then a defeatist!
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