Ivan to be seeded?

Website · #21 Postby **FritzPaul** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 1:38 am

Yeah, and maybe it'll absorb the whole GOM thus robbing the eye of its heat source. LOL

EarthStormFire · #22 Postby **EarthStormFire** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 1:41 am

Matthew5 wrote:If I remember right each thunderstorms is 10,000,000 Gl of water each. You really don't went to mess with god?

If he fills a 747 with this, it will absorbe 70,000,000 to 100,000,000 Gl of water. I dont understand why you dont think that will affect the storm.

Matthew5 · #23 Postby **Matthew5** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 1:44 am

One of the biggest problems is, however, that it would take a LOT of the stuff to even hope to have an impact. 2 cm of rain falling over 1 square kilometer of surface deposits 20,000 metric tons of water. At the 2000-to-one ratio that the "Dyn-O-Gel" folks advertise, each square km would require 10 tons of goop. If we take the eye to be 20 km in diameter surrounded by a 20km thick eyewall, that's 3,769.91 square kilometers, requiring 37,699.1 tons of "Dyn-O-Gel". A C-5A heavy-lift transport airplane can carry a 100 ton payload. So that treating the eyewall would require 377 sorties. A typical average reflectivity in the eyewall is about 40 dB(Z), which works out to 1.3 cm/hr rain rate. Thus to keep the eyewall doped up, you'd need to deliver this much "Dyn-O-Gel" every hour-and-a-half or so. If you crank the reflectivity up to 43 dB(Z) you need to do it every hour. (If the eyewall is only 10 km thick, you can get by with 157 sorties every hour-and-a-half at the lower reflectivity.

To do any thing to this hurricane at all...It would take over 300 aircraft once every half hour pouring this crap into the storm! In that is a C-5 left transtport. As for the 747 it would take more. In that is just to slow the hurricane down! This guy is a joke! In should be tooken out! In he would have to do this after 30 minutes!

NorthGaWeather · #24 Postby **NorthGaWeather** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 1:46 am

May be Castro will shot him down.

EarthStormFire · #25 Postby **EarthStormFire** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 1:48 am

Actually they advertise 3000 to 4000 not 2000. Also a 747 cargo plane holds 100 tons of cargo. Also they dont need to absorbe all of the moisture just some of it in specific area to weaken the storm.

Matthew5 · #26 Postby **Matthew5** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 1:49 am

No that was from the Noaa in that is to have any effected at all!

NorthGaWeather · #27 Postby **NorthGaWeather** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 1:50 am

So you think they can weaken the storm? I suppose we drop in a nuke in it too.

opera ghost · #28 Postby **opera ghost** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 1:51 am

So you ahve this top. And you spin it... right?

Spinning nice and happily?

Touch it with your finger. That sudden lurching pause in the forward speed sends the top careening out of control... right?

Now tell me again- you want to target a specific spot with this stuff to off balance the circulation and weaken it....

Sounds like bad physics to me. Bad bad physics.

Matthew5 · #29 Postby **Matthew5** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 1:52 am

A nuke would work better! Even Oil over the ocean thousands of tons of it would work a thousand times better. I looked at this topic for a time. So I know that this is bull #$#$

chakalakasp · #30 Postby **chakalakasp** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 1:57 am

Matthew5 wrote:A nuke would work better! Even Oil over the ocean thousands of tons of it would work a thousand times better. I looked at this topic for a time. So I know that this is bull #$#$

Well, a nuke would work about as well, which is not at all. Plus, you'd then have a radioactive hurricane which, despite being a cool name for a band, is not a cool thing for the coast.

#31 Postby **HeartofNC** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 7:40 am

What happens to that stuff after it absorbs the water? It lands in the ocean, the fish eat it? it goes to the bottom of the ocean? finds its way to a coast line for babies to nibble on on their first day at the beach? hmmmmmmm? I really would like to know. :roll:

canegrl04 · #32 Postby **canegrl04** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 7:46 am

I'm a believer in not messin with mother nature. Look what what happened when they tried to cross gentle bees with African bees years ago . :roll:

Innotech · #33 Postby **Innotech** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 7:49 am

yeah, Im really sure hes got enough of that chemical to dissipate a few TRILLION BTU'S of energy from a Hurricane. He's pissin in the wind.

#34 Postby **LSU2001** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 7:56 am

remember they seeded camille and it rained out over the mountains of west virginia causing massive flooding and almost as many deaths as on the coast.

dougjp · #35 Postby **dougjp** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 7:56 am

Oops! He let it all out of the plane too fast! 100 tons goes splashing into the ocean from a great height. Tidal wave causes unimagineable damage. :roll:

So for his next big idea he will arrange a flotilla of ice making ships to steam a few days ahead of the expected track

Now that one may work.....

Innotech · #36 Postby **Innotech** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 8:05 am

my father came up with a totally unpractical idea of pumping arctic water in mass quantities over the hurricane alley between the caribbean and Cape Verdes. He knows better of course, that this would be impossible, but it was all in fun. While that would probably do it, due to lowering SSTs, it would be horrendously costly, and engineering and shipping nightmare, and potentially globally catastrophic. In other words while it could work theoretically, it would be impossible to implement and os it remains a fun imaginative idea that will never get off the ground.

stormchaser · #37 Postby **stormchaser** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 8:18 am

Matthew5,
You need to lighten up a little...

Scorpion · #38 Postby **Scorpion** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 8:23 am

I think this is absurd! This guy should be shot down or something! Who knows what consequences this would have on the environment!

Anonymous · #39 Postby **Anonymous** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 10:07 am

A hurricane which drops 12 inches of rain drops 871,000 tons of water over every square mile. That means that a storm 100 mile across drops 7 billion tons of water on the ground for every 12 inches of rain. Hurricane Frances dropped 12 inches of rain over central Florida in 24 hours. To absorb that same amount of water would require nearly 2 million tons of this material.

frankthetank · #40 Postby **frankthetank** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 10:14 am

this is a publicity stunt....the guy has too much money on his hands...

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