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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands

#201 Postby skyline385 » Fri Aug 26, 2022 11:47 am

CV system weak on the GFS probably from the dry air and TUTT

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#202 Postby Iceresistance » Fri Aug 26, 2022 11:55 am

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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands

#203 Postby ElectricStorm » Fri Aug 26, 2022 11:57 am

12z GFS makes this a recurving hurricane north of the islands
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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands

#204 Postby skyline385 » Fri Aug 26, 2022 11:59 am

Weak GFS run for the CV systems overall


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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands

#205 Postby ElectricStorm » Fri Aug 26, 2022 12:01 pm

skyline385 wrote:Weak GFS run for the CV systems overall


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It's not weak at all for this system lol

957mb near Bermuda
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Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands

#206 Postby skyline385 » Fri Aug 26, 2022 12:03 pm

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skyline385 wrote:Weak GFS run for the CV systems overall


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It's not weak at all for this system lol

It was definitely weaker when recurving from near the LA when i posted. For some reason, one of the recurving system decided to blow up in the middle of the Atlantic which is ideal for everyone as long as it dodges Bermuda too.


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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands

#207 Postby MHC Tracking » Fri Aug 26, 2022 12:14 pm

ElectricStorm wrote:12z GFS makes this a recurving hurricane north of the islands

Without that modelcane in the Gulf, that storm would be heading west as a strong hurricane, a-la EPS.
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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands

#208 Postby Blown Away » Fri Aug 26, 2022 12:21 pm

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EURO a little left and GFS a little right, split the difference is usually the outcome. Seems the models are displaying their bias and timing and strength are generally in line, so I think this will be an Invest soon and then Danielle or Earl, depending on the GOM system. JMHO
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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands

#209 Postby sma10 » Fri Aug 26, 2022 12:23 pm

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ElectricStorm wrote:12z GFS makes this a recurving hurricane north of the islands

Without that modelcane in the Gulf, that storm would be heading west as a strong hurricane, a-la EPS.


The GFS is making it very difficult for us to believe in it. Besides blowing up that system, it then pumps two more storms out of the Gulf mere days apart
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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands

#210 Postby MHC Tracking » Fri Aug 26, 2022 12:29 pm

sma10 wrote:
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ElectricStorm wrote:12z GFS makes this a recurving hurricane north of the islands

Without that modelcane in the Gulf, that storm would be heading west as a strong hurricane, a-la EPS.


The GFS is making it very difficult for us to believe in it. Besides blowing up that system, it then pumps two more storms out of the Gulf mere days apart

Haha yeah. Image
Giga gyre with numerous vorts, somehow related to the previous ghostcane's vorticity
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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands

#211 Postby AutoPenalti » Fri Aug 26, 2022 12:34 pm

Blown Away wrote:https://i.imgur.com/WvtKmHh.jpg
00z EURO
https://i.imgur.com/JdmrFsx.jpg
12z GFS

EURO a little left and GFS a little right, split the difference is usually the outcome. Seems the models are displaying their bias and timing and strength are generally in line, so I think this will be an Invest soon and then Danielle or Earl, depending on the GOM system. JMHO

I know this is days apart to even discuss steering but the Euro 12z run is a bit north from the last run.
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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands

#212 Postby MHC Tracking » Fri Aug 26, 2022 12:35 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:
Blown Away wrote:https://i.imgur.com/WvtKmHh.jpg
00z EURO
https://i.imgur.com/JdmrFsx.jpg
12z GFS

EURO a little left and GFS a little right, split the difference is usually the outcome. Seems the models are displaying their bias and timing and strength are generally in line, so I think this will be an Invest soon and then Danielle or Earl, depending on the GOM system. JMHO

I know this is days apart to even discuss steering but the Euro 12z run is a bit north from the last run.

Let's see what EPS comes in with relative to the south-weighted 00z run.
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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands

#213 Postby aspen » Fri Aug 26, 2022 12:35 pm

ElectricStorm wrote:
skyline385 wrote:Weak GFS run for the CV systems overall


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It's not weak at all for this system lol

957mb near Bermuda

And 947mb at 40N lol
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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands

#214 Postby cycloneye » Fri Aug 26, 2022 12:41 pm

2 PM TWO. The x more SW than this morning.

Eastern Tropical Atlantic:
A broad and complex area of low pressure over the eastern tropical
Atlantic Ocean is producing disorganized showers and thunderstorms.
The interaction of this feature with an approaching tropical wave
could support some gradual development of the system during the
early and middle parts of next week while it moves slowly westward
to west-northwestward across the eastern and central tropical
Atlantic.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...10 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...30 percent


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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands

#215 Postby MHC Tracking » Fri Aug 26, 2022 12:44 pm

X is gradually being moved towards the main dominant feature.
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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands

#216 Postby AutoPenalti » Fri Aug 26, 2022 12:45 pm

MHC Tracking wrote:
AutoPenalti wrote:
Blown Away wrote:https://i.imgur.com/WvtKmHh.jpg
00z EURO
https://i.imgur.com/JdmrFsx.jpg
12z GFS

EURO a little left and GFS a little right, split the difference is usually the outcome. Seems the models are displaying their bias and timing and strength are generally in line, so I think this will be an Invest soon and then Danielle or Earl, depending on the GOM system. JMHO

I know this is days apart to even discuss steering but the Euro 12z run is a bit north from the last run.

Let's see what EPS comes in with relative to the south-weighted 00z run.

Correction: I looked at the GFS 12z model map and assumed Euro 12z came out at the same time. I haven’t seen the Euro 12z yet. It hasn’t released yet lol
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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands

#217 Postby USTropics » Fri Aug 26, 2022 12:45 pm

Watch the upper-level environment over the central/western Atlantic at 5 days. Both models have been trending in different directions with the ULL over the CATL:

GFS
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ECMWF
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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands

#218 Postby MHC Tracking » Fri Aug 26, 2022 12:49 pm

USTropics wrote:Watch the upper-level environment over the central/western Atlantic at 5 days. Both models have been trending in different directions with the ULL over the CATL:

GFS
https://i.imgur.com/Jujq7ae.gif

ECMWF
https://i.imgur.com/rkIHVwj.gif

GFS is heavily influenced by the GoM fantasy. I'll trust the ECMWF for now, but take it with a little salt due to the strong ridge bias
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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands

#219 Postby skyline385 » Fri Aug 26, 2022 12:51 pm

MHC Tracking wrote:
USTropics wrote:Watch the upper-level environment over the central/western Atlantic at 5 days. Both models have been trending in different directions with the ULL over the CATL:

GFS
https://i.imgur.com/Jujq7ae.gif

ECMWF
https://i.imgur.com/rkIHVwj.gif

GFS is heavily influenced by the GoM fantasy. I'll trust the ECMWF for now, but take it with a little salt due to the strong ridge bias

What influence does the GoM system have on a MDR system?


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Re: Tropical Wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands

#220 Postby Iceresistance » Fri Aug 26, 2022 12:52 pm

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