Official 2005 retired names and 2011 list of names

[cycloneye]

http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2006/s2607.htm

Dennis,Katrina,Rita,Stan and Wilma haved been retired.


Official 2011 list

Arlene
Bret
Cindy
Don
Emily
Franklin
Gert
Harvey
Irene
Jose
Katia
Lee
Maria
Nate
Ophelia
Philippe
Rina
Sean
Tammy
Vince
Whitney

[CHRISTY]

if u want to know hurricane names from now till 2010 this is the place.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/aboutnames.shtml?text

[Jim Cantore]

lol, I figures I dont see this thread until I post one, just my luck

The fact that Emily wasnt retired was disgraceful to me, look what she did to Mexico, Playa Del Carmen was leveled. Sure it only Killed 6 people but I think the damage qualifys.

As for the 2011 names, Whitney was my W pick, Rina is a decent one although it sounds alot like Rita. Hurricane Don sounds goofy. I didnt even know Katia was a name. As for Sean, I'm Neutral.

[richtrav]

Well Emily came in about 30 miles too far south, you know if it doesn't happen in the US it's really not important. Northern Tamaulipas was devastated by the way, far worse than what happened during Bret in '99. Hmm, Bret wasn't retired either

[brunota2003]

well, Mexico didnt request it I guess, the US cant request a storm be retired that did not affect them, and Emily hit Mexico, not the US...

[Calasanjy]

Whether or not you realized the name existed does not matter. There are thousands of names from around the world, most of which many people are not aware of. The issue with these new names is that they are highly unoriginal. Don is a simple, dull-sounding name in my opinion (it's almost too short), and I take issue with Katia, Rina, and Sean because they only differ from the original names by one or two letters. Also, Katia sounds a lot like Kate, which was used in 2003 and is scheduled to be used again in 2009. I think Whitney was the best decision out of all the new names.

If I could have determined the new names, this would have been my decision:

Cindy becomes Callie
Dennis becomes Damiano
Emily becomes Elvira
Katrina becomes Korrinne
Ophelia becomes Orelie
Rita becomes Rochelle
Stan becomes Stefano
Vince becomes Vladimir
Wilma becomes Whitney (like the Committee decided)

Also, what is the status on the auxiliary list? Has that definitely been shot down? I'll give my opinion on what a decent backup list would consist of:

Aloysius, Belinda, Caedmon, Danika, Etienne, Fatima, Garrett, Hendrika, Ioachim, Jadisha, Korwin, Loretta, Majid, Nehanda, Odanodan, Philicia, Quinlan, Riesa, Siegfried, Talia, Uziel, Violeta, Windsor, Ximena, Youssef, Zurine

And no, I did create any of these names. All of them are real and represent the diversity that exists in the nations affected by Atlantic hurricanes. Many of the names on the current lists sound outdated and plain.

[Audrey2Katrina]

Well Emily came in about 30 miles too far south, you know if it doesn't happen in the US it's really not important. Northern Tamaulipas was devastated by the way, far worse than what happened during Bret in '99. Hmm, Bret wasn't retired either

but I believe Emily did attain Cat 5 intensity (however briefly) and I seriously doubt Brett did. Perhaps death toll is a consideration... I dunno; were the death tolls of all these retired names higher than Emily's?

A2K

[Dr. Jonah Rainwater]

Odanodan

Yes.

[HURAKAN]

I don't know if anyone has already commented this, but 5 names retired in one season is a new record for the 2005 season.

[Audrey2Katrina]

Don sounds goofy

Don is a simple, dull-sounding name

Ya know... If I were named "Don" I just MIGHT take umbrage at comments like that....

On a more serious note, rather than disparaging what just might be someone's name, I feel the names Katia and Rina, while legitimate names, are just too close to those of their predecessors. Katia is a nice enough name, but I dunno, just think if they'd have come up with a Hurricane Cammie to replace Camille? The point being names completely different from those retired should have been selected--IMHO.

A2K

[HURAKAN]

I would have liked more Raquel to replace Rita and Kelly to replace Katrina.

[senorpepr]

but I believe Emily did attain Cat 5 intensity (however briefly) and I seriously doubt Brett did. Perhaps death toll is a consideration... I dunno; were the death tolls of all these retired names higher than Emily's?

A2K

Here are the direct death tolls for each storm...

Arlene -- 1
Bret -- 1
Cindy -- 1
Dennis -- 41
Emily -- 6
Jose -- 6
Katrina -- ~1,200
Ophelia -- 1
Rita -- 7
Stan -- 80
Wilma -- 22
Alpha -- 26
Gamma -- 37

[Calasanjy]

Okay, I just want to clarify that I have nothing against anyone named "Don" who might be lurking on this forum. I just think it isn't an ideal hurricane name. There's too much of an emphasis on selecting names that are short and not enough interest in using more exotic names. I don't understand how limiting the length of names is supposed to help people in an impeding disaster. Also, another aspect of the naming process is questionable. Why do they rotate the lists instead of designing new ones for each individual season? I can't imagine how creating a list of names could be such a difficult process.

[senorpepr]

Shoot... why do they even name storms to begin with? They don't have frontal systems or polar lows...

[JonathanBelles]

did they decide anything on the greek names

[HurricaneBill]

My problem with "Don" is that it doesn't sound masculine. It sounds just like the female name "Dawn".

If they were using "Donny" or "Donald", I'd have no problem.

[StormScanWx]

Shoot... why do they even name storms to begin with? They don't have frontal systems or polar lows...

I would say the general public 'likes' naming storms. (what can I say, it was an EXCELLENT idea, IMHO.)

[Andrew92]

I am OK with Don, Sean, and Whitney as replacement names.

I know one person earlier said that Sean was only one letter different from Stan, which is true. But the pronunciations are so much different. Yet, I can see how Shawn would be a more appropriate spelling. Still, Sean is a legit replacement. My second choice to replace Stan, in fact, only behind Steve.

Don might not sound "ideal," but it is still legit. Sure, I would have preferred Derek (in honor of someone of course), but if not, Dustin or Damian or something similar. But I can live with Don.

As for Whitney, well, it seems like everyone, including me, had Whitney picked to replace Wilma. No debate needed there.

Katia and Rina, on the other hand, I have problems with. Katia doesn't sound entirely like Katrina per se, but only two letters were removed from Katrina. And someone might mis-pronounce it to "kuh-tia," eerily similar to Katrina.

But Rina I have a lot of beef with. For one, this isn't like Stan and Sean, which at least sound different. Rina and Rita have only one letter difference, AND they sound similar. On top of that, Rina is simply the last half of Katrina.

IMHO, Kelly, Kimberly, or Katherine should have been used for Katrina, and Rhiannon, Raquel, or Rhonda should have been used for Rita.

Oh well. C'est la vie I guess.

-Andrew92

[senorpepr]

Shoot... why do they even name storms to begin with? They don't have frontal systems or polar lows...

I would say the general public 'likes' naming storms. (what can I say, it was an EXCELLENT idea, IMHO.)

I will agree with part of your statement. The media and the US public, with some foreign public, likes naming storms. However, a majority of the basin doesn't care/know about storm names. Matter of fact, a small minority that was affected by Mitch (one of the most deadly storms in the Atlantic basin) knew it by such name. Most simply knew it as a storm/hurricane.

[HURAKAN]

Hurricanes are exceptional storms. They are not just like frontal systems or extratropical lows that if you were to name them then you would need a very long list. Furthermore, it serves greatly as a historical value. Do you remember the second storm of 1992? Now, if I tell you, do you remember Hurricane Andrew? A great difference. Moreover, names gives them a personal/human touch.