Iran seizes U.K. troops=The 15 sailors are back home

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#201 Postby Lindaloo » Sun Apr 01, 2007 9:28 pm

Ivanhater wrote:I wonder whats up with the video that Iran is sending out witht he Brits confessing to being in their waters.....The water is becoming muddy so to speak and that is never good in situations like this....


A violation of the Geneva Conventions and nothing is being done. No wonder those that hate us do what they do. We have become softies.
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#202 Postby Cookiely » Sun Apr 01, 2007 10:24 pm

This is simply another tactic they are using to buy time to complete the assembly of bombs. I think everyone knows why the Brits being held are reading the garbage they are spouting. Better to read the garbage than have one of your friends have his head chopped off. I saw a program today from Iran which was probably old where they had a public execution of a young sixteen year old girl hung from a crane. Apparently she had been assaulted but they blamed her for being immoral., and the supreme court found her guilty. It was extremely difficult to watch. :cry:
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Iran will not air more videos

#203 Postby cycloneye » Mon Apr 02, 2007 7:21 am

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17909589/

:uarrow: :uarrow: :uarrow: :uarrow: :uarrow: :uarrow: :uarrow: :uarrow:

Is this a sign that Iran may be blincking and that the standoff will end soon?
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#204 Postby gtalum » Mon Apr 02, 2007 8:17 am

Lindaloo wrote:A violation of the Geneva Conventions and nothing is being done. No wonder those that hate us do what they do. We have become softies.


In case you haven't noticed, the GC protections ain't what they used to be. :)
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#205 Postby Lindaloo » Mon Apr 02, 2007 8:49 am

gtalum wrote:
Lindaloo wrote:A violation of the Geneva Conventions and nothing is being done. No wonder those that hate us do what they do. We have become softies.


In case you haven't noticed, the GC protections ain't what they used to be. :)


I have noticed. :P
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#206 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Apr 03, 2007 7:58 am

Iran's president to talk about sailors

""The president will explain Iran's view on ... the British forces' illegal entry into Iranian waters and the British government's adopted policy regarding the issue," state television said."
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#207 Postby Cryomaniac » Tue Apr 03, 2007 5:17 pm

HURAKAN wrote:Iran's president to talk about sailors

""The president will explain Iran's view on ... the British forces' illegal entry into Iranian waters and the British government's adopted policy regarding the issue," state television said."


What he says will be pretty important.

I have said before that I don't believe the British are taking a strong enough attitude on this. I think that right from the point when the British government knew that the sailors weren't in Iranian waters there should have been a deadline imposed, with the threat of military action if it was not complied with. Appeasment never got anyone anywhere.
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#208 Postby cycloneye » Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:18 am

Iran will free the 15 sailors Iran President said.More details soon.
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#209 Postby Regit » Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:18 am

Iran's President now says the release is imminent and should come within the next few minutes.
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#210 Postby cycloneye » Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:24 am

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17944210/

More information at link.
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#211 Postby lurkey » Wed Apr 04, 2007 9:20 am

cycloneye wrote:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17944210/

More information at link.


. . releasing as an Easter holiday "gift" to the British people . . . :roll:
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#212 Postby Brent » Wed Apr 04, 2007 9:56 am

A "gift"? Wonder what the British gave him in exchange... :roll:

Glad this is over, but that wording was strange.
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#213 Postby GalvestonDuck » Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:02 am

Regit wrote:Iran's President now says the release is imminent and should come within the next few minutes.


What's his definition of "few?"
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#214 Postby kevin » Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:21 am

Bomb them!!

It seems that we didn't have to, which is good. Thousands of lives saved. Strategic interests maintained. Today will be a good day.
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#215 Postby artist » Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:35 am

I'm wondering if behind the scenes the UK was tough but allowed them to save face with announcing it this way.
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#216 Postby kevin » Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:49 am

artist wrote:I'm wondering if behind the scenes the UK was tough but allowed them to save face with announcing it this way.


Its quite possible. Krushchev allowed us to 'win' the Cuban Missile Crisis even though we withdrew nuclear weapons from Turkey. We allowed the Pakistanis to keep the fact we threatened them with war and destruction after 9/11 private, until Musharaff decided to disclose the confrontation. Yes, the United States evidently called up the Pakistanis and told them they would either join us in the fight against the Taliban and Al Qae'ada or be bombed back to the stone age. We told this to a nuclear power.

It wouldn't surprise me if the British played hardball behind the scenes. This is clearly not going to be seen as an Iranian victory anywhere except for Iran. The Arab world doesn't like the British but their governments are becoming increasingly disturbed by Iran.
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#217 Postby feederband » Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:56 am

kevin wrote:Bomb them!!

It seems that we didn't have to, which is good. Thousands of lives saved. Strategic interests maintained. Today will be a good day.



I am glad they realesed them...But they should be punished for their actions...
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#218 Postby kevin » Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:02 am

feederband wrote:
kevin wrote:Bomb them!!

It seems that we didn't have to, which is good. Thousands of lives saved. Strategic interests maintained. Today will be a good day.



I am glad they realesed them...But they should be punished for their actions...


That is not how one conducts diplomacy and has one's word taken seriously in the international scene. There is nothing the British could do which would weaken their support as much as that.
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#219 Postby feederband » Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:04 am

kevin wrote:
feederband wrote:
kevin wrote:Bomb them!!

It seems that we didn't have to, which is good. Thousands of lives saved. Strategic interests maintained. Today will be a good day.



I am glad they realesed them...But they should be punished for their actions...


That is not how one conducts diplomacy and has one's word taken seriously in the international scene. There is nothing the British could do which would weaken their support as much as that.



Hmmmm...Taking British soliders and holding them as hostages doesn't sound very diplomatic..
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#220 Postby kevin » Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:10 am

Negotiating for their release and achieving it is diplomatic.

This should clear things up a lot on what nations do under these circumstances:

http://www.usspueblo.org/
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