Hurricane Wilma - Cat. 5

[cinlfla]

I don't know what that is but it is way off base

I just saw this in another weather forum. I was wondering the same thing hope someone knows

[truballer#1]

eye is starting to open a bit more

[Mello1]

Striking New Orleans is a possibility, too. I guess I have a different standard for the discussions here. I like to see them backed with facts, otherwise what's the point? Isn't it instructive to point out that no two tracks are truly identical, and why? It's really a shame that this kind of request for intelligent discussion is viewed as spoiling someone's fun.

Is it possible to move on from this? At this point in the game, a lot of things are possible. People will be all over the map in their opinions and discussions as this is a message board. If people are really concerned and are seeking hard factual information that they need to trust, they should turn to the National Hurricane Center for advisories and official information.

That's my opinion.

[6SpeedTA95]

eye is starting to open a bit more

when you say open do you mean clear out?

[truballer#1]

yep, clear out and more dark orange is staring to show and more red

[cajungal]

CHRISTY must of evacuated or something. Strange that I have not seen her in here the last couple of days. Especially since Wilma poses a great threat to her general area.

[joseph01]

just want to remind everyone of the remarkably similar path taken by the 1921 category 3 storm that hit tampa bay, the last direct hurricane experienced by tampa bay still to this day. also notice the date.

We could also show Isabell, which formed in the same area, and look where that went. In fact, we could go back in history and pick a variety of tracks that started where this one did and went everywhere else but Tampa. What about Mitch? What makes the 1921 storm so relevant except that it might support your own personal theory?

I don't think these historical track variations serve any purpose but to unduly frighten people unless we're willing to go back and document if the myriad of other complex conditions that affected the 1921 storm were exactly the same conditions that exist today with this one. And I seriously doubt they were.

Perhaps it was just an additional post on a tropical weather enthusiasts board.

Perhaps it could be a learning experience for all if there was a valid rationale to accompany the post.

When that becomes neccessary, this place is doomed. At least, the fun in being here, anyway.

Since when is crying FIRE in a crowded theater fun? Unless you get off on that kind of nonsense.

This is not crying FIRE. This is a possibility. We are in the cone.
This is nothing like fire- it is just discussion of a possibility.

Striking New Orleans is a possibility, too. I guess I have a different standard for the discussions here. I like to see them backed with facts, otherwise what's the point? Isn't it instructive to point out that no two tracks are truly identical, and why? It's really a shame that this kind of request for intelligent discussion is viewed as spoiling someone's fun and that people are attacked for asking for this kind of reasoning.

If you are going to expect that sort of qualifier for posts here, you might be bonkers by nights end. People come and post here, because it's both informative, and FUN. My last post on this issue.

[nequad]

CHRISTY must of evacuated or something. Strange that I have not seen her in here the last couple of days. Especially since Wilma poses a great threat to her general area.

She has posted on this thread within the past couple hours.

[Mello1]

CHRISTY must of evacuated or something. Strange that I have not seen her in here the last couple of days. Especially since Wilma poses a great threat to her general area.

I saw that name just this afternoon....

[O Town]

Striking New Orleans is a possibility, too. I guess I have a different standard for the discussions here. I like to see them backed with facts, otherwise what's the point? Isn't it instructive to point out that no two tracks are truly identical, and why? It's really a shame that this kind of request for intelligent discussion is viewed as spoiling someone's fun and that people are attacked for asking for this kind of reasoning.

I enjoy posts such as tampaflwx made. It is a learning experience. Common sense should tell most people that it will not take the exact path. Not all of us know what similar storms have done in the past. You make people feel intimidated to post things they think is important, or a good learning experience. Keep it to yourself, not all of us think as you do, if there was a problem with his posts I think the mods would handle it.

[joseph01]

Striking New Orleans is a possibility, too. I guess I have a different standard for the discussions here. I like to see them backed with facts, otherwise what's the point? Isn't it instructive to point out that no two tracks are truly identical, and why? It's really a shame that this kind of request for intelligent discussion is viewed as spoiling someone's fun and that people are attacked for asking for this kind of reasoning.

I enjoy posts such as tampaflwx made. It is a learning experience. Common sense should tell most people that it will not take the exact path. Not all of us know what similar storms have done in the past. You make people feel intimidated to post things they think is important, or a good learning experience. Keep it to yourself, not all of us think as you do, if there was a problem with his posts I think the mods would handle it.

Good post. Well said. Let's move on.

[truballer#1]

check out the shortwave for wilma,
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... -loop.html[/img]

[Tampa Bay Hurricane]

just want to remind everyone of the remarkably similar path taken by the 1921 category 3 storm that hit tampa bay, the last direct hurricane experienced by tampa bay still to this day. also notice the date.

We could also show Isabell, which formed in the same area, and look where that went. In fact, we could go back in history and pick a variety of tracks that started where this one did and went everywhere else but Tampa. What about Mitch? What makes the 1921 storm so relevant except that it might support your own personal theory?

I don't think these historical track variations serve any purpose but to unduly frighten people unless we're willing to go back and document if the myriad of other complex conditions that affected the 1921 storm were exactly the same conditions that exist today with this one. And I seriously doubt they were.

Perhaps it was just an additional post on a tropical weather enthusiasts board.

Perhaps it could be a learning experience for all if there was a valid rationale to accompany the post.

When that becomes neccessary, this place is doomed. At least, the fun in being here, anyway.

Since when is crying FIRE in a crowded theater fun? Unless you get off on that kind of nonsense.

This is not crying FIRE. This is a possibility. We are in the cone.
This is nothing like fire- it is just discussion of a possibility.

Striking New Orleans is a possibility, too. I guess I have a different standard for the discussions here. I like to see them backed with facts, otherwise what's the point? Isn't it instructive to point out that no two tracks are truly identical, and why? It's really a shame that this kind of request for intelligent discussion is viewed as spoiling someone's fun and that people are attacked for asking for this kind of reasoning.

New Orleans is not in the Cone. It's all about the cone.

[O Town]

link not working.

[joseph01]

check out the shortwave for wilma,
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... -loop.html[/img]

Link doesn't work there, truballer. Maybe need to delete something from the end.

[inotherwords]

Striking New Orleans is a possibility, too. I guess I have a different standard for the discussions here. I like to see them backed with facts, otherwise what's the point? Isn't it instructive to point out that no two tracks are truly identical, and why? It's really a shame that this kind of request for intelligent discussion is viewed as spoiling someone's fun and that people are attacked for asking for this kind of reasoning.

I enjoy posts such as tampaflwx made. It is a learning experience. Common sense should tell most people that it will not take the exact path. Not all of us know what similar storms have done in the past. You make people feel intimidated to post things they think is important, or a good learning experience. Keep it to yourself, not all of us think as you do, if there was a problem with his posts I think the mods would handle it.

I disagree. It would be a better learning experience if he explained how the two storms were similar or different other than the fact that they took the same track. I don't think this was an informative post at all. You know very well that you can't just take two tracks and say that X could happen because Y storm took a similar track on a similar date. Some new person here who doesn't know anything about storms might see this and get upset without someone else pointing out why the two storms are different.

I'm sorry, but you guys are piling on me now, and it's not appreciated. I am all for having fun but I think there are a lot of people here who post stuff that really need to be a little more personally responsible about what they post when a dangerous storm is bearing down on populated areas.

[truballer#1]

shortwave expand the purple a lot
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... -loop.html

[Recurve]

Striking New Orleans is a possibility, too. I guess I have a different standard for the discussions here. I like to see them backed with facts, otherwise what's the point? Isn't it instructive to point out that no two tracks are truly identical, and why? It's really a shame that this kind of request for intelligent discussion is viewed as spoiling someone's fun and that people are attacked for asking for this kind of reasoning.

I enjoy posts such as tampaflwx made. It is a learning experience. Common sense should tell most people that it will not take the exact path. Not all of us know what similar storms have done in the past. You make people feel intimidated to post things they think is important, or a good learning experience. Keep it to yourself, not all of us think as you do, if there was a problem with his posts I think the mods would handle it.

I'll second that.
If you know reasons why a certain track isn't likely because of synpotic setup or climatology, you can helpfully explain that. Pretend you're Max Mayfield and a reporter just asked if it's possible to stop the hurricane with an atomic bomb. I'm pretty sure the answer wouldn't be a lecture on the intelligence of the question.

[Bocadude85]

Ok I going to go out in a limb and say this will pass just north of cozumel, and I still dont think she is going to pass over enough of the Yucatan to weaken her as much as forcasted, nor do I think she will stall

[Stratosphere747]

Well whatever influence from the low casuing the northward movement some were seeing looks to be over with. And now it looks as if it has even slowed down even more.