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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2141 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Tue Oct 28, 2025 5:07 am

kevin wrote:Flightaware now mentions that NOAA42 is expected to depart in 20 minutes. Perhaps something is wrong with the other planes and NOAA42 is going again instead. I don't know, all we can do is wait and see.


Thanks. I was looking at all the ten Air Force planes and forgot to look at NOAA's aircraft at the flight tracking site. I link to those various site here for the thirteen planes: https://tropicalatlantic.com/reconnaiss ... r_tracking
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2142 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Tue Oct 28, 2025 5:08 am

Treasure Beach looks like the single worst place to be today on Earth... worst of the surge will be up by there.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2143 Postby ronjon » Tue Oct 28, 2025 5:11 am

Looks like landfall near Black River to Alligator Beach between 10 am to noon. Kingston may not see hurricane winds as Melissa's wind field is rather compact (like Andrew). Montego Bay may see the western eyewall.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2144 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Tue Oct 28, 2025 5:12 am

Air Force mission just started obs. They haven't taken off yet from Curacao.
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#2145 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Tue Oct 28, 2025 5:18 am

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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2146 Postby kevin » Tue Oct 28, 2025 5:20 am

Flightaware shows that AF303 (TEAL75) has now departed from Curaçao. Should arrive in about 110 minutes according to its average flight schedule.
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#2147 Postby Nimbus » Tue Oct 28, 2025 5:23 am

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:Treasure Beach looks like the single worst place to be today on Earth... worst of the surge will be up by there.


Black river Methodist church is at the 11 foot level, hope people don't seek shelter there.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2148 Postby Beef Stew » Tue Oct 28, 2025 5:23 am

The only saving grace is that with a compact wind field and a more westerly track, Kingston should be spared significant wind damage. But eastern Jamaica will still have to contend with significant inland flooding I’m afraid…
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2149 Postby grapealcoholic » Tue Oct 28, 2025 5:26 am

every single eyewall merge or replacement melissa has endured in her lifetime is/has-been silky smooth -- almost imperceptible

amazing storm
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2150 Postby GCANE » Tue Oct 28, 2025 5:28 am

Last drop from recon, about 6 hrs ago, shows a completely saturated eye.
Too late for any type of EWRC to have an effect on landfall.

Feeder band extends all the way thru southern Nicaragua into the east Pacific.

Won't be surprised if recon finds sub 900mb.
This is a 20 mile wide EF3 tornado.

God save Jamaica
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2151 Postby Beef Stew » Tue Oct 28, 2025 5:35 am

Melissa is probably the best satellite-era example of what the 1932 Cuba Hurricane would’ve looked and acted like to date. I’ve always been somewhat skeptical of that storm’s ability to remain a category 5 continuously for as many days as it did, but if it was going through a series of eyewall melds similar to what we’ve seen in Melissa, then it’s entirely plausible.
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#2152 Postby Hurricane2022 » Tue Oct 28, 2025 5:40 am

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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2153 Postby Nimbus » Tue Oct 28, 2025 5:41 am

Beef Stew wrote:The only saving grace is that with a compact wind field and a more westerly track, Kingston should be spared significant wind damage. But eastern Jamaica will still have to contend with significant inland flooding I’m afraid…


Rain forecasts for Kingston probably won't end up historic, so people that live there will know where the flood and mud slide issues have occurred in the past and evacuate on the forecast. Dr Bird has some low elevation infrastructure that could be out for weeks though.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2154 Postby michelinj » Tue Oct 28, 2025 5:41 am

Latest WV eye temp is -3.39C. Warmest yet
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2155 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Tue Oct 28, 2025 5:43 am

It's hard to tell for sure but just looking at satellite I think Melissa is moving faster than expected. We may be looking at a landfall before 9-10am.
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#2156 Postby GCANE » Tue Oct 28, 2025 5:45 am

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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2157 Postby aspen » Tue Oct 28, 2025 5:46 am

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:It's hard to tell for sure but just looking at satellite I think Melissa is moving faster than expected. We may be looking at a landfall before 9-10am.

Recon picked really bad time to be late then. It may not get there in time before landfall.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2158 Postby michelinj » Tue Oct 28, 2025 5:47 am

Both HAFS models have played with the idea of a slight east shift just before landfall and I wonder if we're starting to see that at the moment. Not massive but potentially landfall more Treasure Beach/Alligator Pond than Treasure Beach/Black River. We'll see though may be a wobble relating to EWRC
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2159 Postby Sciencerocks » Tue Oct 28, 2025 5:49 am

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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2160 Postby Blown Away » Tue Oct 28, 2025 5:52 am

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Melissa aiming for the Black River to Crane Corner area...
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