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#2181 Postby R-Dub » Tue Feb 15, 2005 10:54 pm

TT-SEA wrote:Classic sign of getting sick.

Today was not that cold. If it was raining and 38 degrees and you were outside all day I could see you still being cold.

But sunny and 40 degrees with light wind.

You're sick dude.


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! I CANNOT be sick, to much to do at work this week .....................NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! :grr: :grr:

Oh well I think you are right as usual TT :lol:
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#2182 Postby R-Dub » Tue Feb 15, 2005 10:58 pm

As of 8:00PM
Current windy areas................

Lakewood, WA 16.7 mph
Tacoma, WA 12.3 mph
Seattle, WA 11.2 mph

Dead calm here at my house, that is probably why my temp is so low compared with these other places.
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#2183 Postby TT-SEA » Tue Feb 15, 2005 11:43 pm

Say it isn't so... both the GFS and the ETA (NAM) in their respective 00Z runs have significantly reduced the strength of the weekend system and return us quickly to high pressure.

Just one run... but both models agreeing is not a good sign.

KOMO had a story tonight about how much drier this February has been compared to last August.

Looks fairly dry through most of next week. Cool... sunny... NICE.
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#2184 Postby W13 » Tue Feb 15, 2005 11:44 pm

R-Dub wrote:As of 8:00PM
Current windy areas................

Lakewood, WA 16.7 mph
Tacoma, WA 12.3 mph
Seattle, WA 11.2 mph

Dead calm here at my house, that is probably why my temp is so low compared with these other places.


Our peak gust has been 20 mph, an hour or two ago. The wind seems to be dying down a little bit now, though. :)
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#2185 Postby R-Dub » Tue Feb 15, 2005 11:54 pm

Interesting article in todays Everett Herald...........

Region has suffered major, long droughts


By Gene Johnson
Associated Press


SEATTLE - The low snowpack in the Cascade Range is raising the specter of water shortages this summer, but a new study of tree-ring data indicates the Northwest has endured far worse droughts over the past 250 years and is likely to again.

The study, published in the Journal of the American Water Resources Association, said the region endured six multiyear droughts between 1750 and 1950, including one that started in the 1840s and lasted for 12 years.

The authors, Dave Peterson of the U.S. Agriculture Department, Ze'ev Gedalof of the University of Guelph in Ontario, and Nate Mantua of the University of Washington's Climate Impacts Group, said the evidence shows a need for better drought planning in the Northwest.

"We've built most of our infrastructure in the last half-century or so, but we haven't had any major multiyear droughts during that time," said Peterson, who also teaches at the UW's College of Forest Resources. "The water has been overallocated. What do we do when we get into a five-year drought and everybody's competing for water? We haven't had to face that but we probably will."

Farmers and hydroelectric facilities depend heavily on the water flow in the Columbia River, and enough water needs to remain in the river basin to provide habitat for salmon.

The three conducted the study by coring out samples of tree trunks from around the region, sanding them down and digitizing the information left by the tree rings, enabling them to see how much the trees grew each year. By comparing that to known information about the Columbia River's flow since 1878, they were able to extrapolate how the level of the Columbia, fed by rain and snow, compared to tree growth.

They saw serious multiyear droughts in the 1840s and the 1930s; the latter a drought that, along with poor agriculture practices, caused the Dust Bowl.

"One of the things we have noted is that drought causes all kinds of conflict over limited water supplies," Mantua said. "We still haven't come up with a great collection of drought response plans in not just the Pacific Northwest, but throughout the West."

The Northwest's most recent drought was in 2001, but a more serious one, which led to water restrictions even in rainy Western Washington, came in 1993. This year's snowpack is far below average so far, but scientists are holding out hope for snow in March and April.
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#2186 Postby R-Dub » Tue Feb 15, 2005 11:58 pm

Well goodnight all, I am going to bed........I am Still cold as heck :(

Temp has bumped up a degree.........

2/15/05 LK Goodwin WA
8:55:43 PM CURRENT
clear
Temperature (ºF) 32.5
Humidity (%) 87.5
Wind (mph) NNW 0.0
Daily Rain (") 0.00
Pressure ("Hg) 30.34
Dew Point: 31.1 ºF
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#2187 Postby andycottle » Tue Feb 15, 2005 11:58 pm

Hi guys:) Sorry for the late posting on my day off today. My computer went the high road and decided not to work right. Anyway, am using a laptop now untill I get a new box. -- Andy
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#2188 Postby andycottle » Wed Feb 16, 2005 12:02 am

Definally a frosty, crisp morning today. Very frosty but also nice and sunny all day. Though with a little light wind, made the temp feel a little colder than the low 40's. Our high today was 44 with a low of 25. Right now at 9:06pm we have a temp of 30 with clear moon lit skies. Will now look at some weather maps so I can give you all a weather outlook.
-- Andy
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#2189 Postby W13 » Wed Feb 16, 2005 12:03 am

Just to let everyone on here know, the Old Farmer's Alamanac Forums are back up again. Granted, this forum is much better, I find it interesting to stop over there every once in a while and see what those people have to say. :wink:

Currently 34 F as of 9:03 PM ... this wind is really hurting us in terms of getting our temperature down.

Goodnight! :D
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#2190 Postby R-Dub » Wed Feb 16, 2005 12:06 am

Good to see the oldfarm back up, but I think we should all stay here, this is a much better site!!!

Goodnight all!
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#2191 Postby andycottle » Wed Feb 16, 2005 12:22 am

Yeah good think'n Randy! We should indeed stay here...no dought! -- Andy
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#2192 Postby snow_wizzard » Wed Feb 16, 2005 12:25 am

The winds tonight are absolutely bizarre in Covington. Mostly calm, but an occasional 5mph puff from every possible direction. It must have somewthing to do with the fact that pressure gradient is as much N to S as it is E to W. It just can't decide what to do here.

The GFS and other models continue to show a trough dropping down this weekend, but with little moisture. It will do little more than give a few clouds and freshen up the cold air. The bigger story may be in the longer range. For the 10 - 15 day period the GFS actually shows a series of fronts hitting the region...Could it be so?
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#2193 Postby TT-SEA » Wed Feb 16, 2005 12:32 am

Perfectly stated Snow_Wizzard.

The front this weekend should freshen the air mass and renew offshore flow for early next week.

And yes... I believe we are going to FINALLY get some real action in about 2 weeks. Right on schedule for my predicted "wild March".


What the hell... we totally agree!!
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#2194 Postby frankthetank » Wed Feb 16, 2005 12:47 am

looked like a nice day today (for those who like clear skies!)

Image

some closer images
http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/subs ... a.500m.jpg
http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/subs ... a.250m.jpg
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#2195 Postby cloud9 » Wed Feb 16, 2005 12:50 am

Maybe I'll hang my snow tires from a tree limb and use them for a swing :lol:
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#2196 Postby TT-SEA » Wed Feb 16, 2005 12:53 am

It was another spectacular winter day in the Pacific Northwest!!
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#2197 Postby cloud9 » Wed Feb 16, 2005 12:56 am

I need to get some use out of them before they fossalize. Is that a word? :roll:
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#2198 Postby TT-SEA » Wed Feb 16, 2005 1:09 am

Light winds finally kicked in here and the temperature jumped from 31 to 36 degrees.

Strange evening for temperatures with the wind.
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#2199 Postby snow_wizzard » Wed Feb 16, 2005 1:10 am

That satellite pic is amazing. The air was SO clear today that there was no haze for as far as the eye could see. That Canadian air is so clean and pure!

TT and I agree? Ahhh...it can't be! :eek: :eek:
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#2200 Postby snow_wizzard » Wed Feb 16, 2005 1:16 am

This is one of the stranger east wind situations I have seen. It is so confused, at least so far. I defy anyone to predict the low temperatures accurately tonight! The only thing I would even attempt to predict is the low temps for places like Arlington, and the totally wind sheltered valleys. Those areas should see about 20 tonight. Other than that, it's a tough call.
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