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#221 Postby Stormsfury » Mon Apr 12, 2004 4:46 pm

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Willh wrote:Wanna see a perfect example of horrible, absolutely cringe worthy lyrics? This is just the height of trash and it's shocking to me that there are people out here who can relate to this or even listen to it without having to turn it off, not from offense but from the cringe factor. What the hell is going on in minds of these people??

Pretty much agree with you; I don't completely hate Disturbed, and even have a few MP3's from them on my hard drive, but the lyrics to that song (and admittedly most of their others) come off as almost as manufactured and plastic as Britney's, just targeted at a different audience. I sometimes question whether any lyrics are truly written without profit in mind; I love bands like Tool and Radiohead and the complexity of their work makes it apparent that they are at least somewhat sincere -- because they could easily make money without putting forth so much effort -- but even Maynard and Tom Yorke may not always be writing lyrics solely for their artistic value.

What really ticks me off are people who bash the lyrics of one group while claiming that those of another band are divine insight and the biggest thing since Shakespeare, when in fact there is some amount of commercialism involved in pretty much all popular recorded music.


Disturbed is fairly diversified enough but their keeping within a stylistic way of writing b/c of ... the name of the band, much like Staind. However, I'm a HUGE fan of Disturbed and their songs delve straight into things that aren't generally talked about, basically much like Slayer except without all the really evil overtones.

The second CD (Believe) is much more diversified than the first ... with somes like Remember, Intoxication, Liberate, Prayer and Believe ... as a matter of fact, here's my Disturbed lyrical page and read through the lyrics sets between the first and the second ... and see the difference between The Sickness (which was a straight in your face concept) vs. Believe which explores much more lyrically, musically, and subject matter wise.

http://www.stormsfury1.com/Music/Disturbed.html
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#222 Postby Stormsfury » Mon Apr 12, 2004 4:50 pm

Willh wrote:
Stormsfury wrote:Down with the Sickness ...

an absolutely awesome song that delves into the horrors of child abuse, and written in the style of an angry youth who grows up hating the things that his mother did and wanting revenge (and justice). And many times, what one experiences is when one can write the most powerful and yet, sometimes the darkest of lyrics ...

And stories like thisf DEFINITELY (and unfortunately) occur much more often than one wants to think about ... A close friend of mine's sister has two children and she couldn't care less about those children except for when it comes time to collect the welfare check so she can get her high off of crack. She neglects the children and will leave them all weekend so she can get laid and high. Fortunately, this person was arrested for prostitution and drug paraphenalia.
I'm aware of this. That's why I said controversy aside, or whatever I said.
The fact of the matter is that that is simply trash art. It's crap.
Any 9 year old can write that, and taken at face value...perhaps it holds art value in a societal manner...but on it's own...it's nothing more than trite, cliche garbage.


I definitely disagree with you here. I would much rather see one singing or feeling this kind of emotions using a song to release this energy than actually committing such a act ...

hell, look at Eminem. He writes lyrics even more descriptive and intense b/c he writes what he feels.
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#223 Postby Anonymous » Mon Apr 12, 2004 4:55 pm

Stormsfury wrote:I definitely disagree with you here. I would much rather see one singing or feeling this kind of emotions using a song to release this energy than actually committing such a act ...

hell, look at Eminem. He writes lyrics even more descriptive and intense b/c he writes what he feels.

The problem, though, is that, having never met these artists in real life, it is impossible to tell what their motivations are to write those lyrics. It is IMO a plausible scenario that Disturbed and/or Eminem have to attempt recording the vocals multiple times in the studio because they can't stifle the laughter over all the "suckers" out there who take them for sincere artists when in reality they are simply 100% profit-hungry. I am NOT saying I believe this to be the case; I'm just saying it wouldn't shock me if I found out it was.

I think all of us can agree that Britney Spears is not a sincere artist and that her lyrics are not derived from real emotions or experiences. Who's to say for SURE that this is not the case with some other lyricists that aren't quite so blatant with their insincerity?
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#224 Postby Willh » Mon Apr 12, 2004 4:57 pm

Stormsfury wrote:
Willh wrote:
Stormsfury wrote:Down with the Sickness ...

an absolutely awesome song that delves into the horrors of child abuse, and written in the style of an angry youth who grows up hating the things that his mother did and wanting revenge (and justice). And many times, what one experiences is when one can write the most powerful and yet, sometimes the darkest of lyrics ...

And stories like thisf DEFINITELY (and unfortunately) occur much more often than one wants to think about ... A close friend of mine's sister has two children and she couldn't care less about those children except for when it comes time to collect the welfare check so she can get her high off of crack. She neglects the children and will leave them all weekend so she can get laid and high. Fortunately, this person was arrested for prostitution and drug paraphenalia.
I'm aware of this. That's why I said controversy aside, or whatever I said.
The fact of the matter is that that is simply trash art. It's crap.
Any 9 year old can write that, and taken at face value...perhaps it holds art value in a societal manner...but on it's own...it's nothing more than trite, cliche garbage.


I definitely disagree with you here. I would much rather see one singing or feeling this kind of emotions using a song to release this energy than actually committing such a act ...

hell, look at Eminem. He writes lyrics even more descriptive and intense b/c he writes what he feels.
I've said this before...artistically speaking, Eminem has talent. Immense talent. It simply needs to be honed by maturity and education.
Disturbed has none...I've read their lyrics, I've heard their arrangements. I don't think they are talented. Perhaps they have the technical aspects of musicianship down, but that's it.

And Brett...I disagree. Speaking from the point of view of someone who has written dozens of short stories that vary in length from 2 to 30+ pages, and near a thousand poems...I feel that there are plenty of people out there who write without commercialism on their mind. And that doesn't necessarily mean that they don't try to appeal to a certain group...because they do, but I don't feel that this compromises the artistic message.
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#225 Postby Stormsfury » Mon Apr 12, 2004 5:04 pm

I've said this before...artistically speaking, Eminem has talent. Immense talent. It simply needs to be honed by maturity and education.
Disturbed has none...I've read their lyrics, I've heard their arrangements. I don't think they are talented. Perhaps they have the technical aspects of musicianship down, but that's it.

And Brett...I disagree. Speaking from the point of view of someone who has written dozens of short stories that vary in length from 2 to 30+ pages, and near a thousand poems...I feel that there are plenty of people out there who write without commercialism on their mind. And that doesn't necessarily mean that they don't try to appeal to a certain group...because they do, but I don't feel that this compromises the artistic message.


Well, we're definitely not going to agree with the Disturbed issue. I agree that Eminem is a talented writer and artist, but I also believe Disturbed has a tremendous staying power, both lyrically and musically. And nothing will change my mind from that ...

SF
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