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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#2261 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:45 am

UW - CIMSS
ADVANCED DVORAK TECHNIQUE
ADT-Version 7.2.3
Tropical Cyclone Intensity Algorithm

----- Current Analysis -----
Date : 07 JUL 2008 Time : 114500 UTC
Lat : 19:19:59 N Lon : 50:39:12 W

CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
4.8 / 975.1mb/ 84.8kt


Final T# Adj T# Raw T#
(3hr avg)
4.8 5.3 5.3

Latitude bias adjustment to MSLP : +1.5mb

Estimated radius of max. wind based on IR : 15 km

Center Temp : +2.1C Cloud Region Temp : -55.3C

Scene Type : EYE

Positioning Method : RING/SPIRAL COMBINATION

Ocean Basin : ATLANTIC
Dvorak CI > MSLP Conversion Used : ATLANTIC

Tno/CI Rules : Constraint Limits : NO LIMIT
Weakening Flag : OFF
Rapid Dissipation Flag : OFF

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#2262 Postby Chacor » Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:45 am

For what it's worth, by the way, this does not meet the criteria for rapid deepening (42 mbar in 24 hours OR 2.5 mbar/h for 12 hours).
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#2263 Postby hurricanefloyd5 » Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:48 am

what's going on here with Big bertha???? Dose this strenghtening change the track to the east more if in fact it is upgraded to a cat.2 by 11am.
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#2264 Postby HurricaneHunter914 » Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:48 am

Wow, Bertha is a beauty this morning! Maybe not a category 2 at 11am, but if it continues strengthening like this, I'd say Cat 2 at 5pm.
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#2265 Postby Thunder44 » Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:50 am

Do I smell a special advisory or update coming soon? :wink:
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#2266 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:52 am

Thunder44 wrote:Do I smell a special advisory or update coming soon? :wink:


Maybe not because is in the middle of the ocean without any threat to anyone.
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#2267 Postby Thunder44 » Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:54 am

cycloneye wrote:
Thunder44 wrote:Do I smell a special advisory or update coming soon? :wink:


Maybe not because is in the middle of nowhere.


I've seen them put out special advisories out for systems further out in the Atlantic.
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#2268 Postby hurricanefloyd5 » Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:55 am

Thunder44 wrote:Do I smell a special advisory or update coming soon? :wink:



Unless the tracks changes in some big way or the movement changed in some big way then I doubt it but I could be wrong.
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#2269 Postby Mecklenburg » Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:58 am

Thunder44 wrote:Do I smell a special advisory or update coming soon? :wink:


not really, they would only issue that when a storm is at imminent threat to land right?
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#2270 Postby NDG » Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:59 am

Bertha's intensification during the night and this morning goes to tell many of us that were calling for Bertha to get ripped apart by shear once it got to 50W how quickly conditions change, just because there is shear in an area today does not mean that it will be there tomorrow or the day after, shear tendency maps are better to look at.
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#2271 Postby Thunder44 » Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:59 am

ADT numbers:

2008JUL07 114500 5.1 968.0/ +0.0 / 92.4 5.1 5.7 5.7 NO LIMIT OFF OFF 2.14 -55.26 EYE 15 IR 19.33 50.65
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#2272 Postby Mecklenburg » Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:00 am

the weather.com images on atlantic are kinda outdated
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#2273 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:01 am

At this pace we will reach 200 pages very shortly!!!

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#2274 Postby storms in NC » Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:02 am

Why would they put a special advisories out for? That don't make sence at all.
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#2275 Postby Chacor » Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:02 am

We're two hours away from advisory time so I doubt we'll get a special advisory. Maybe if it had reached cat 2 strength we might've gotten a TCU but I don't think we'll see anything in this case.

BTW, here are some 12z intensity models (also posted in the model thread):
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(Model names)
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#2276 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:03 am

NDG wrote:Bertha's intensification during the night and this morning goes to tell many of us that were calling for Bertha to get ripped apart by shear once it got to 50W how quickly conditions change, just because there is shear in an area today does not mean that it will be there tomorrow or the day after, shear tendency maps are better to look at.
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That strong flow that would be shearing Bertha if the system were farther North is instead helping to evacuate the upper levels, and is helping Bertha instead.
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#2277 Postby Mecklenburg » Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:07 am

trivia: the last B hurricane was Hurricane Bret of 1999, the last B storm to be retired was Hurricane Bob of 1991
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#2278 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:07 am

At this pace we will reach 200 pages very shortly!!!


The record of many pages is Wilmas thread with 282 pages so still far but if Bertha takes 2 weeks to go,maybe a new record may be broken. :)
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#2279 Postby Chacor » Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:14 am

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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#2280 Postby Thunder44 » Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:16 am

I'm seeing these other ADT numbers, from these text files:

2008JUL07 114500 5.1 968.0/ +0.0 / 92.4 5.1 5.7 5.7 NO LIMIT OFF OFF 2.14 -55.26 EYE 15 IR 19.33 50.65

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/adt/02L-listA.txt

2008JUL07 114500 5.1 968.0/ +0.0 / 92.4 5.1 5.7 5.7 NO LIMIT OFF OFF 2.14 -55.26 EYE 15 IR 19.33 50.65 COMBO 45.6

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/adt/02L-listmw.txt

2008JUL07 114500 5.3 964.0/ +0.0 / 97.2 5.3 5.7 5.7 NO LIMIT OFF OFF 2.14 -55.26 EYE 15 IR 19.33 50.65 COMBO 32.8

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/adt/02L-listmw2.txt

Where are coming they from?
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