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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L in Central Caribbean

#2261 Postby ROCK » Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:14 pm

Sanibel wrote:A sharp eye will see the present red convection dot is moving steadily along over a center without receding. A sure sign of development.




nice catch Sanibel....I see what you mean....

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L in Central Caribbean

#2262 Postby Javlin » Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:15 pm

With 95L to the W 94L cannot go any further S that would be going against the fluid flow;95L moves 94L WNW-NW(path of least resistance).Then you have what would be an ULL or TUTT cutting into Cuba some that shall inhibit 94L some once it gets pass say 75'>78' that will change provided 94L holds then the ULL or TUTT enhances outflow;if 94L holds.Could be interesting a little study of Fluid dynamics from years ago :lol:

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L in Central Caribbean

#2263 Postby Innotech » Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:18 pm

This is an insane amount of activity for July. Im seriously concerned about hte rest of the season. And yet so very excited.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L in Central Caribbean

#2264 Postby StormTracker » Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:19 pm

Sanibel wrote:A sharp eye will see the present red convection dot is moving steadily along over a center without receding. A sure sign of development.

Yeah, what Sanibel Said!!! It does appear to be moving in a more NW direction now!
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L in Central Caribbean

#2265 Postby srainhoutx » Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:20 pm

Javlin wrote:With 95L to the W 94L cannot go any further S that would be going against the fluid flow;95L moves 94L WNW-NW(path of least resistance).Then you have what would be an ULL or TUTT cutting into Cuba some that shall inhibit 94L some once it gets pass say 75'>78' that will change provided 94L holds then the ULL or TUTT enhances outflow;if 94L holds.Could be interesting a little study of Fluid dynamics from years ago :lol:

http://www.atmos.washington.edu/~ovens/ ... nhanced+12


Agree
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L in Central Caribbean

#2266 Postby ROCK » Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:22 pm

srainhoutx wrote:
Javlin wrote:With 95L to the W 94L cannot go any further S that would be going against the fluid flow;95L moves 94L WNW-NW(path of least resistance).Then you have what would be an ULL or TUTT cutting into Cuba some that shall inhibit 94L some once it gets pass say 75'>78' that will change provided 94L holds then the ULL or TUTT enhances outflow;if 94L holds.Could be interesting a little study of Fluid dynamics from years ago :lol:

http://www.atmos.washington.edu/~ovens/ ... nhanced+12


Agree




thought you were going to bed.... :lol: 0Z GFS into the TX/ MX border.....interesting to see what the GFDL does since it pounded NO the last run. Bet you it splits the difference... :D
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#2267 Postby coreyl » Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:23 pm

Some of you'll think it is now moving NW?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L in Central Caribbean

#2268 Postby StormTracker » Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:24 pm

That's probably why the NHC is not showing a future forecast plot for the moment! They're re-calculating right now as we speak!!!
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#2269 Postby ROCK » Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:25 pm

coreyl wrote:Some of you'll think it is now moving NW?





not a due NW but more of a WNW I would say. Definitely pulling off of SA attm....
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L in Central Caribbean

#2270 Postby srainhoutx » Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:25 pm

Everyone else is. Shhh :lol: Have to plan my day tomorrow. 00z looks interesting. Some more data from RECON tomorrow morning will tell the tale, so to speak. Goodnight.
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#2271 Postby Smurfwicked » Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:25 pm

coreyl wrote:Some of you'll think it is now moving NW?


Still very much more W than NW movement but yes I am pretty certain that its beginning to have more WNW direction.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L in Central Caribbean

#2272 Postby Javlin » Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:30 pm

ROCK wrote:
srainhoutx wrote:
Javlin wrote:With 95L to the W 94L cannot go any further S that would be going against the fluid flow;95L moves 94L WNW-NW(path of least resistance).Then you have what would be an ULL or TUTT cutting into Cuba some that shall inhibit 94L some once it gets pass say 75'>78' that will change provided 94L holds then the ULL or TUTT enhances outflow;if 94L holds.Could be interesting a little study of Fluid dynamics from years ago :lol:

http://www.atmos.washington.edu/~ovens/ ... nhanced+12


Agree




thought you were going to bed.... :lol: 0Z GFS into the TX/ MX border.....interesting to see what the GFDL does since it pounded NO the last run. Bet you it splits the difference... :D


Don't even make me laugh Rock :lol: .Will it's always good to be pegged early then you know that you are out of the crap shoot.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L in Central Caribbean

#2273 Postby StormTracker » Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:30 pm

Well, goodnight everybody! Happy tracking...i'll be back in about 7 hrs to see what new developments have occured! It's gonna be an exciting rest of the season!!! 8-)
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L in Central Caribbean

#2274 Postby Innotech » Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:34 pm

this storm is most definitely organizing itself, slowly but surely. All the convection has pulled together towards the center and it continues to fire further deep and lasting convection. Folks weve got al ive one.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L in Central Caribbean

#2275 Postby PTrackerLA » Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:38 pm

Don't really know what everyone else is seeing. What I see is a huge dying outflow boundary with storms developing behind it getting sheared off to the south. I could name several instances where this system has looked MUCH more impressive than it does now. Looks like a disorganized sheared mess but it wouldn't even surprise me if it finally develops tomorrow given that I've thought it was already there a few times. The model trends, well, I'll try to ignore those until/if we ever get TC out of this. GOM has been closed since 2005 94L :D .
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#2276 Postby Derek Ortt » Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:04 am

guys...


this thing is running smack into very strong shear. The sytem is becoming even mroe disorganized and environmental conditions likely will NEVER be favorable for this to develop (GFS shear forecasts are usually poor to horrid... remember Bertha expected to encounter 30KT of shear when it encountered 5KT?).

This has about as much chance of developing within the next 48 hours as a bearded lady has of winning Miss America
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#2277 Postby Brent » Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:08 am

Derek Ortt wrote:This has about as much chance of developing within the next 48 hours as a bearded lady has of winning Miss America


:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#2278 Postby kurtpage » Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:08 am

Derek Ortt wrote:guys...


this thing is running smack into very strong shear. The sytem is becoming even mroe disorganized and environmental conditions likely will NEVER be favorable for this to develop (GFS shear forecasts are usually poor to horrid... remember Bertha expected to encounter 30KT of shear when it encountered 5KT?).

This has about as much chance of developing within the next 48 hours as a bearded lady has of winning Miss America



haha...that last line made me laugh!

You know that I am going to hold you to this and put it in my sig if this develops before 1:04 am on Sunday morning....

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#2279 Postby cheezyWXguy » Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:09 am

Derek Ortt wrote:guys...


this thing is running smack into very strong shear. The sytem is becoming even mroe disorganized and environmental conditions likely will NEVER be favorable for this to develop (GFS shear forecasts are usually poor to horrid... remember Bertha expected to encounter 30KT of shear when it encountered 5KT?).

This has about as much chance of developing within the next 48 hours as a bearded lady has of winning Miss America

Well, this suggests its about to run into an area of very low shear in the next 48 hours...can u show me this "wall of shear"
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/TCFP/da ... xyrshr.png
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L in Central Caribbean

#2280 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:10 am

I agree derek.

Can you tell me the reason why these invests are getting going, but they don't get to become cyclones. What is the difference between this season and 2005 in these terms. Thank you.
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