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#241 Postby Dean4Storms » Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:51 am

Noting a low level circulation this morning near 89.5W/24.5N
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L

#242 Postby tolakram » Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:52 am

Latest MIMIC-TPW loop shows circulation off the tip of the Yucatan.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L

#243 Postby cycloneye » Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:52 am

Joe Bastardi ‏@BigJoeBastardi 8m
Low level circulation may be starting near 25 north and 89.5 west pic.twitter.com/fLyFYuUMwY

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L

#244 Postby Dean4Storms » Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:55 am

cycloneye wrote:Joe Bastardi ‏@BigJoeBastardi 8m
Low level circulation may be starting near 25 north and 89.5 west pic.twitter.com/fLyFYuUMwY

https://twitter.com/BigJoeBastardi


That's the one I'm seeing. Clear spin and at low level.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L

#245 Postby cycloneye » Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:57 am

12z Best track coincides with JB.

AL, 91, 2013060412, , BEST, 0, 243N, 893W, 25, 1009, DB
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L

#246 Postby tolakram » Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:59 am

cycloneye wrote:Joe Bastardi ‏@BigJoeBastardi 8m
Low level circulation may be starting near 25 north and 89.5 west pic.twitter.com/fLyFYuUMwY

https://twitter.com/BigJoeBastardi


It's the area just below the westward moving spiral. If he's right then that spiral, if it holds together, should start moving SW ans then S around the larger center.

http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/ge ... umframes=5
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#247 Postby jlauderdal » Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:02 am

NDG wrote:Here is the GFS shear forecast over the next 72 hrs, it shows shear to diminish Wednesday and early Thursday ahead of the next trough of low pressure but as the low merges with the trough for it to acquire more of subtropical or extratropical entitiy.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L

#248 Postby jlauderdal » Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:05 am

weatherwindow wrote:With respect to the current substantial shear, modelling earlier in the week, particularly the GFS and Euro, were suggesting that the shear would ease as the front/trough along the Gulf coast lifted to the Northeast. Is that solution still in the cards or will the shear r
remain? Any comment from the pros or the ams?...Rich
PS...The Lower Keys will need kayaks soon if the rain persists:)
PPS....Front Street in Key West was under 2' of water at high tide last nite


front street has been flooded twice already in the past month, we are having trouble getting anything significant going in SE Florida, dynamics are crappy for anything to get going, severe looks totally really unlikely for today and rain totals look meager, lets see what tomorrow brings
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#249 Postby tropicwatch » Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:05 am

The model plots came together pretty quickly on this one. Now all they need to do is shift a little further west :wink: I know I am being a little selfish but we need rain.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L

#250 Postby wzrgirl1 » Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:06 am

Why Jlauderdale? Because of dry air? Confused..... :eek:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L

#251 Postby N2FSU » Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:07 am

Greetings from a wet Cozumel. Just pulling into port on the Carnival Paradise. Heavy rain right now with pretty gusty winds and low ceilings. Looks like a drinking day!
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L

#252 Postby Dean4Storms » Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:10 am

N2FSU wrote:Greetings from a wet Cozumel. Just pulling into port on the Carnival Paradise. Heavy rain right now with pretty gusty winds and low ceilings. Looks like a drinking day!


Tequila flows like water down there!
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L

#253 Postby wxman57 » Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:11 am

I don't think that the swirl near 24.5N/89.5W is the place to look for development. I saw 2-3 such swirls yesterday, all rotating around a broad area of low pressure. Follow the convection - that's where any low will form (not the other way around).
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#254 Postby NDG » Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:11 am

Looking at the water vapor loop this morning you can tell that the mid and upper level conditions are starting to change a little bit.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#255 Postby N2Storms » Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:13 am

[quote="panamatropicwatch"]The model plots came together pretty quickly on this one. Now all they need to do is shift a little further west :wink: I know I am being a little selfish but we need rain.[/quote]


PTW. I've all but given up on this one...it looks like we are destined to be on the dry side of this one. Maybe we'll be able to get a good shower or two out of it. Anything would be better than nothing.
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#256 Postby wzrgirl1 » Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:16 am

NDG wrote:Looking at the water vapor loop this morning you can tell that the mid and upper level conditions are starting to change a little bit.


Please be more specific. For the worse or for the better in terms of development?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L

#257 Postby NDG » Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:37 am

wxman57 wrote:I don't think that the swirl near 24.5N/89.5W is the place to look for development. I saw 2-3 such swirls yesterday, all rotating around a broad area of low pressure. Follow the convection - that's where any low will form (not the other way around).


Yeah, I agree, it appears to be more like an eddy drifting away from a broader circulation near the Yucatan Peninsula.
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#258 Postby NDG » Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:42 am

wzrgirl1 wrote:
NDG wrote:Looking at the water vapor loop this morning you can tell that the mid and upper level conditions are starting to change a little bit.


Please be more specific. For the worse or for the better in terms of development?


For the better of development. Latest shear map shows near 20 knots across the eastern GOM when yesterday was closer to 30 knots.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L

#259 Postby TexasF6 » Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:43 am

Has Aric Dunn made any synopsis this morning? WXman57 is spot on with the ejecting vorts, but the convection may have only a mid-level circ, if anything...my eyes may be playing tricks on me with only one cup of joe thusfar! GM folks!
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L

#260 Postby jlauderdal » Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:45 am

N2FSU wrote:Greetings from a wet Cozumel. Just pulling into port on the Carnival Paradise. Heavy rain right now with pretty gusty winds and low ceilings. Looks like a drinking day!

if you are on a carnival cruise you have much bigger concerns then a tropical system, :roll:
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