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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#241 Postby stormreader » Wed Aug 16, 2017 5:35 pm

northjaxpro wrote:I will say this. Do not put your complete faith in the GFS. Proceed with needed caution hugging that model in particular!


My, how times have changed, and life moves on!
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#242 Postby Cpv17 » Wed Aug 16, 2017 5:37 pm

Seems like the models have gotten worse over the years instead of getting better.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#243 Postby northjaxpro » Wed Aug 16, 2017 5:38 pm

stormreader wrote:
northjaxpro wrote:I will say this. Do not put your complete faith in the GFS. Proceed with needed caution hugging that model in particular!


My, how times have changed, and life moves on!


And I used to really like the GFS before they made so many changes to it. So yeah, we indeed move on in life but the GFS model is not what it used to be imo!
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#244 Postby gsheldon » Wed Aug 16, 2017 5:49 pm

Hello everyone, I am a retired meteorologist- was on television/radio and started my career in Miami in the mid 80's. I have noticed that the GFS is not what it use to be and not as reliable. I have a subscription to Weather Bell models which in my professional opinion is a lot better than tropical tidbits. The third wave is the wave I am concerned about. It is still to early to predict where it will end up as there is a lot of shear taking place but it does have potential.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - discussion

#245 Postby gsheldon » Wed Aug 16, 2017 5:55 pm

Hello everyone, I am a retired meteorologist- was on television/radio and started my career in Miami in the mid 80's. I have noticed that the GFS is not what it use to be and not as reliable. I have a subscription to Weather Bell models which in my professional opinion is a lot better than tropical tidbits. The third wave is the wave I am concerned about. It is still to early to predict where it will end up as there is a lot of shear taking place but it does have potential.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - discussion

#246 Postby Thetxhurricanemaster » Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:03 pm

gsheldon wrote:Hello everyone, I am a retired meteorologist- was on television/radio and started my career in Miami in the mid 80's. I have noticed that the GFS is not what it use to be and not as reliable. I have a subscription to Weather Bell models which in my professional opinion is a lot better than tropical tidbits. The third wave is the wave I am concerned about. It is still to early to predict where it will end up as there is a lot of shear taking place but it does have potential.

Welcome but there is a thread for the wave behind this one on the talking tropics forum
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#247 Postby TheStormExpert » Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:06 pm

Those saying the GFS has been performing extremely poorly sure are right, but the Euro and UKMET aren't too far behind either so maybe there is something globally going on with these models causing all the aggravation and stress.

As for 92L's future it's best potential FOR NOW might be on approach towards or near the NE Caribbean that's if you can even trust the models over the next 3-5 days. Beyond that we probably have a better guess than the global models do, after all it is mid-August and you'd expect anything in the western Atlantic or Bahamas region to be of concern.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#248 Postby SFLcane » Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:10 pm

gsheldon wrote:Hello everyone, I am a retired meteorologist- was on television/radio and started my career in Miami in the mid 80's. I have noticed that the GFS is not what it use to be and not as reliable. I have a subscription to Weather Bell models which in my professional opinion is a lot better than tropical tidbits. The third wave is the wave I am concerned about. It is still to early to predict where it will end up as there is a lot of shear taking place but it does have potential.


Welcome to S2K! Thx for views and yep i agree future 93L does have potential ensembles right now recurving it near bermuda if that shear zone dont budge these easterly waves will have a real tuff time becoming a problem. GFS now appears the new NAVGEM but there is no denying all the sinking airmass giving these waves fits.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - discussion

#249 Postby otowntiger » Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:39 pm

gsheldon wrote:Hello everyone, I am a retired meteorologist- was on television/radio and started my career in Miami in the mid 80's. I have noticed that the GFS is not what it use to be and not as reliable. I have a subscription to Weather Bell models which in my professional opinion is a lot better than tropical tidbits. The third wave is the wave I am concerned about. It is still to early to predict where it will end up as there is a lot of shear taking place but it does have potential.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - discussion

#250 Postby northjaxpro » Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:43 pm

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gsheldon wrote:Hello everyone, I am a retired meteorologist- was on television/radio and started my career in Miami in the mid 80's. I have noticed that the GFS is not what it use to be and not as reliable. I have a subscription to Weather Bell models which in my professional opinion is a lot better than tropical tidbits. The third wave is the wave I am concerned about. It is still to early to predict where it will end up as there is a lot of shear taking place but it does have potential.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - discussion

#251 Postby floridasun78 » Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:59 pm

gsheldon wrote:Hello everyone, I am a retired meteorologist- was on television/radio and started my career in Miami in the mid 80's. I have noticed that the GFS is not what it use to be and not as reliable. I have a subscription to Weather Bell models which in my professional opinion is a lot better than tropical tidbits. The third wave is the wave I am concerned about. It is still to early to predict where it will end up as there is a lot of shear taking place but it does have potential.

i mayhave seen on tv here i live miami area
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - discussion

#252 Postby Happy Pelican » Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:04 pm

gsheldon wrote:Hello everyone, I am a retired meteorologist- was on television/radio and started my career in Miami in the mid 80's. I have noticed that the GFS is not what it use to be and not as reliable. I have a subscription to Weather Bell models which in my professional opinion is a lot better than tropical tidbits. The third wave is the wave I am concerned about. It is still to early to predict where it will end up as there is a lot of shear taking place but it does have potential.


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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#253 Postby gatorcane » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:01 pm

00Z guidance hot off the press:

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#254 Postby Blown Away » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:15 pm

Intensity models have gone down all day...
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Re: RE: Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#255 Postby jlauderdal » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:18 pm

Blown Away wrote:Intensity models have gone down all day...
Lets see in two days what they are doing...they were bad with gert

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#256 Postby SFLcane » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:23 pm

Boy if it wasn't for that shear we would have some problems on our hands to say the least.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#257 Postby AutoPenalti » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:23 pm

Blown Away wrote:Intensity models have gone down all day...

That will change with time, but for a couple of runs we've seen the consensus of tracks to be similar.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#258 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:28 pm

SFLcane wrote:Boy if it wasn't for that shear we would have some problems on our hands to say the least.

We still could have "some problems" down the road. The shear will not last forever in its path. Gotta watch this one.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#259 Postby SFLcane » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:30 pm

00z models did trend further north away from cuba and Haiti..
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#260 Postby AutoPenalti » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:36 pm

SFLcane wrote:00z models did trend further north away from cuba and Haiti..

Yes, and that could be an issue down the road when we get there.
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