Pacific Northwest Weather

[R-Dub]

Pond ice is very thick now...........................

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/golfer96_ ... pg&.src=ph

This is a large puddle that has been frozen solid, its about 1.5 feet deep, the ice has no problem holding up my cart.................

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/golfer96_ ... pg&.src=ph

Currently as of 4:05PM 45.4 degrees

[TT-SEA]

O.K... today was incredible.

Stopped in Issaquah this afternoon and walking into Home Depot it felt like summer. It was only in the low 60's but with no wind and sunshine it made it feel like the mid-70's. I did not see anybody wearing a jacket and most people were wearing shorts and t-shirts.

I still think a foggy inversion is very unlikely. 850mb temperatures peak tomorrow and there is no fog expected. After that... the upper levels cool off a bit.

It takes a really low sun angle (late November through January)... lots of moisture... or very warm 850mb temperatures to make for an inverison. We do not have any of those.

[snow_wizzard]

Oh yeah! I am so pleased that Sea - Tac and Olympia equalled their record lows today. I thought they had missed them by two degrees or so. It must have been a brief spike in both cases. At any rate the Sea - Tac record is from 1957. Almost a 50 year old record!

The temp range in Covington today was incredible...low 23 high 57...Wow! Is this northern Nevada or western Washington?

I will admit now, that I am completely clueless as to what the weather will be 10 days from now. This is one of the trickiest scenarios to predict that mother nature can throw at us.

[snow_wizzard]

How ironic, that everybody thinks this is such warm spring weather, and yet we are getting record lows and temperatures averaging well below normal. You could make a case that this has been a cold month, and also that it has been a very early spring. Very odd and confusing indeed! I still say that 8 consecutive lows of 25 or below is winter...that cannot happen in the spring.

I think the question that should be on everyone's mind, is when is mother nature going to get even with us, and how?!

[andrewr]

http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstat ... =KWARAVEN1 There's the link for Ravensdale's current conditions. It goes offline every now and then, but it seems to work most of the time.

[TT-SEA]

Snow_Wizzard... the reason we are all so confused is that this IS like Nevada. Huge temperature swings more common of a desert climate.

It felt like winter this morning and pretty close to summer this afternoon. Its both seasons together!!

The models are also confusing me. I definitely think we are going to have much warmer low temperatures by tomorrow night and through the weekend.

But still the air is dry so that it will cool off into the 30's.

Do you still see a foggy inversion setting up where we do not break out during the day? I don't see this at all but I could be wrong.

Intuitively I know a change is coming but I am not getting any support from the models on this idea. In fact... the ECMWF and the GFS seem to keep us in the ridge postion with a split flow for the forseeable future.

[TT-SEA]

In fact Scott Sistek of KOMO thinks tomorrow's record high at Sea-Tac of 61 degrees might be broken.

It will close.

It will probably be in the mid-60's out here in North Bend... maybe getting close to 70 degrees again.

[Cumulonimbus]

ECMWF is the model to watch. GFS doesn't know that anything west of the Rockies exists and certainly not the Pac NW. ECMWF wants to take the ridge further east and POSSIBLY bring in precip in 10 days but I doubt it. Like I posted in another thread. By winter(June 21st) the precip will finally have moved far enough NORTH to bring us som rain.

Blame it on the earthquake in the Pacific. Axis has tilted more than any model predicted!

[R-Dub]

I don't know all the makings for an inversion, aren't we in one now, isn't that why we are under a burn ban with poor air quality? Inversions don't have to include fog and such right??
Think I will get my little fishing boat in the water tomarrow, and putter around the lake!! Water temp is just a tad cool for jetskiing yet

Also I heard that the DOT will start clearing the north cascades HWY, and be open in a couple weeks!! That would be the earliest open of that hwy EVER!!!

We are a little warmer tonight at 36.9 degrees

[cloud9]

Well today as I was at the Marysville livestock aution, I saw lots of chemtrails in the sky. (controlling the weather)Their are 40 nations involved in the free fly zone. God only knows what their spraying in the skies. What ever it is their trying to cause a drought here in the Pacific Northwest. Now, look whats happening in California, is that normal?

[cloud9]

No met can predict the weather beyond 3 days anymore because of HAARP and all the other things in question. http://www.weatherwars.net

[R-Dub]

Cloud9, I saw a lot of CONtrails (think its called anyway) from jetliners cruising at 35,000FT.
Looking up through the layer of pollution stuck in the atmosphere here made the contrails look different then normal.

Just my opinion though.

I am just not a believer in this Harp thing.
Not that I am right, just not a believer

[R-Dub]

Now, look whats happening in California, is that normal?

Auctually its quite normal during a EL NINO yr.

[TT-SEA]

Droughts in the Northwest and floods in the Southwest have happened long before man arrived here. And WAY before we could fly!!

This pattern has repeated every so often for ages.

I think you might be a little paranoid.

[andrewr]

I'm definitely with TT on this one. Just because it doesn't fit our typical climate doesn't mean it isn't normal. Times of drought have happened before and will happen again.

[R-Dub]

Droughts in the Northwest and floods in the Southwest have happened long before man arrived here. And WAY before we could fly!!

This pattern has repeated every so often for ages.

I think you might be a little paranoid.

I agree 100%

[snow_wizzard]

Thanks for the Ravensdale link Andrew! Fascinating stuff. A high of 60 and a low of 18!

TT...The foggy inversion is certainly a huge question mark. The way the dew points came up today, I think some areas in the Puget Sound basin will have fog tomorrow. If the low level moisture and fog get a foothold, it could spiral out of control very quickly. Another question is how much cloud cover might move in. Too much high cloudiness would really hamper fog devleopment. I certainly expect there will be some really cold lows again tonight. We still have a dew point of 31 here, and the temperature has crashed this evening, once again. Truly continental stuff.

Wouldn't that be something if Sea - Tac were to set a record high tomorrow. A record low one day, a record high the next. WEIRD! I am doubtful it will happen though. Something will have to stir the air a bit tomorrow to make it that warm.

[andycottle]

Randy....you are correct about the thin streaks you saw today. They are indeed contrails. Saw a few my self today while out gardening. Our high today was 58 with a low of 26. Currently clear, moon lit skies with 39 degrees here at 8:06pm. -- Andy

[andycottle]

If we get any nice look`n high clouds in here tomorrow, I`ll be taking pics of them! -- Andy

[snow_wizzard]

Could it be....A zonal flow and fairly low heights next week? Take a look at the final panel for the ECMWF...that is the 8 - 10 day average.

http://meteocentre.com/models/ecmwf_ame ... 9panel.gif