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Re: ATL: SANDY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2601 Postby HurrMark » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:33 am

clipper35 wrote:well here in southern new england it seems like it was hyped to much this is a typical noreaster for most of us with beach erosion and coastal flooding winds are not bad we have gust to 35 at times but sustained at 23/26 as far as tropical storm strength winds i doubt we will see them up here as big as this storm is the wind field for the tropical storm strength gusts has retracted to 452 miles from 542 last night and most of the tropical storm gusts are in the northwest part in the storm according to nhc recon yes the mid atlantic will get the brunt of this storm, as far as rain most forecasts up here are calling for scattered showers with a 1/2 inch to 1 inch rainfall amounts and yes most of u are saying its still early it will get bad maybe but most of the highways are packed with commuters going into work and most supermarkets and restaurants are open southern new england is seeing a classic noreaster this is typical for this part of the country the storm may be at a all time low pressure and that is historic....


You are in the Providence area apparently...even if the gusts are 452 miles, you will clearly be in that zone. And you are going to be in the Northwest part of the storm at some point today. My company is asking people to work from home today, and I would guess most of the Boston area is like that as well. I checked traffic maps, and it is smooth sailing into Boston today...same as Providence. Most people are staying home.
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#2602 Postby HurrMark » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:34 am

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KBBOCA wrote:Oh NO! I just checked out CERA for the latest storm surge maps and my hands are literally shaking. They have gotten so much worse.

Here's the map for NY Metro area:
http://anglicanprayer.files.wordpress.c ... c-nyc1.png

Here's the map for the East Coast - look at St. John's Canada!!!
http://anglicanprayer.files.wordpress.c ... -coast.png

These are screen shots from my computer at about 11:30 UTC October 29, 2012.


Note that they changed the color for the upper end of the scale. The scale went to 16ft yesterday (red) and only 10ft today. Not much difference from yesterday. In fact, the projected surge for Long Island looks identical to yesterday, just a different color today.


The problem with that map is simply that it stops at 10 feet. All of New York Harbor is in the deep red. Could some of these areas be 12, 14 feet?
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#2603 Postby Evil Jeremy » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:35 am

BEST TRACK: AL18, 367N 709W, 80kts, 946mb, HU SANDY
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Re: ATL: SANDY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2604 Postby Bellarose » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:35 am

clipper35 wrote:well here in southern new england it seems like it was hyped to much this is a typical noreaster for most of us with beach erosion and coastal flooding winds are not bad we have gust to 35 at times but sustained at 23/26 as far as tropical storm strength winds i doubt we will see them up here as big as this storm is the wind field for the tropical storm strength gusts has retracted to 452 miles from 542 last night and most of the tropical storm gusts are in the northwest part in the storm according to nhc recon yes the mid atlantic will get the brunt of this storm, as far as rain most forecasts up here are calling for scattered showers with a 1/2 inch to 1 inch rainfall amounts and yes most of u are saying its still early it will get bad maybe but most of the highways are packed with commuters going into work and most supermarkets and restaurants are open southern new england is seeing a classic noreaster this is typical for this part of the country the storm may be at a all time low pressure and that is historic....


Hi, Clipper! I am in Warwick, as well. I agree it seems to be business as usual for most, but they say the worst will start at noon. Personally, my biggest concern is power loss. I hope you are right and that we don't get the heavier winds, but I'm glad I prepared for the worst, just in case! Keep safe, neighbor!
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#2605 Postby KWT » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:37 am

Amazing, so its actually still strengthening, now upto 80kts!!

As someone else said, the models have done so well this system...
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#2606 Postby KBBOCA » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:38 am

wxman57 wrote:
KBBOCA wrote:Oh NO! I just checked out CERA for the latest storm surge maps and my hands are literally shaking. They have gotten so much worse.



Note that they changed the color for the upper end of the scale. The scale went to 16ft yesterday (red) and only 10ft today. Not much difference from yesterday. In fact, the projected surge for Long Island looks identical to yesterday, just a different color today.


Wxman57 THANK YOU!!! Talk about confusing. I'm sorry I didn't catch that. That is a dangerous thing to do in terms of creating confusion (as my mistake testifies) Scales should stay consistent, I would think... But seriously, I can breathe better now.
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Re: ATL: SANDY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2607 Postby Terry » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:40 am

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Re: ATL: SANDY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2608 Postby clipper35 » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:41 am

wxman57 wrote:
clipper35 wrote:well here in southern new england it seems like it was hyped to much this is a typical noreaster for most of us with beach erosion and coastal flooding winds are not bad we have gust to 35 at times but sustained at 23/26 as far as tropical storm strength winds i doubt we will see them up here as big as this storm is the wind field for the tropical storm strength gusts has retracted to 452 miles from 542 last night and most of the tropical storm gusts are in the northwest part in the storm according to nhc recon yes the mid atlantic will get the brunt of this storm, as far as rain most forecasts up here are calling for scattered showers with a 1/2 inch to 1 inch rainfall amounts and yes most of u are saying its still early it will get bad maybe but most of the highways are packed with commuters going into work and most supermarkets and restaurants are open southern new england is seeing a classic noreaster this is typical for this part of the country the storm may be at a all time low pressure and that is historic....


Your worst will be tonight/tomorrow, not this morning (if you're in Rhode Island).

well wxman57 i respect all your forecasts on here but according to our mets the worst will be this aft/tonight they are only calling for winds to possible tropical storm strength and sustained winds of 25/30 and they are calling for winds tomorrow only to be 15/25 mph gust to 30 so they must see something different.........just my opinion
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Re: ATL: SANDY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2609 Postby CronkPSU » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:46 am

it appears DirecTV is about to do their usual local coverage on channels 325 and 349, they now have the blue screen up with Hurricane Sandy coverage in the info box...they usually switch back and forth between the major local (I am guessing NYC in this case) continuous news coverage
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Re: ATL: SANDY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2610 Postby clipper35 » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:48 am

Bellarose wrote:
clipper35 wrote:well here in southern new england it seems like it was hyped to much this is a typical noreaster for most of us with beach erosion and coastal flooding winds are not bad we have gust to 35 at times but sustained at 23/26 as far as tropical storm strength winds i doubt we will see them up here as big as this storm is the wind field for the tropical storm strength gusts has retracted to 452 miles from 542 last night and most of the tropical storm gusts are in the northwest part in the storm according to nhc recon yes the mid atlantic will get the brunt of this storm, as far as rain most forecasts up here are calling for scattered showers with a 1/2 inch to 1 inch rainfall amounts and yes most of u are saying its still early it will get bad maybe but most of the highways are packed with commuters going into work and most supermarkets and restaurants are open southern new england is seeing a classic noreaster this is typical for this part of the country the storm may be at a all time low pressure and that is historic....


Hi, Clipper! I am in Warwick, as well. I agree it seems to be business as usual for most, but they say the worst will start at noon. Personally, my biggest concern is power loss. I hope you are right and that we don't get the heavier winds, but I'm glad I prepared for the worst, just in case! Keep safe, neighbor!

i am concerned for possible power loss but i see homeowners boarding up windows in inland areas they all here superstorm sandy and booom they hyped it up here to much yhey new sat that the track was in the midatlantic for the hit not here just the northern extent of the storm creating havoc
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Re: ATL: SANDY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2611 Postby tomboudreau » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:48 am

CronkPSU wrote:it appears DirecTV is about to do their usual local coverage on channels 325 and 349, they now have the blue screen up with Hurricane Sandy coverage in the info box...they usually switch back and forth between the major local (I am guessing NYC in this case) continuous news coverage


I was waiting for this to happen over the weekend. I'm glad to have these channels appear so we can follow the coverage from the local media up in the North East.
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#2612 Postby Weatherguy173 » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:49 am

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Re: ATL: SANDY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2613 Postby Blown Away » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:49 am

I gues looks can be deceiving because Sandy doesn't look that tropical on the IR loop. JMH amateur opinion only.
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Re: ATL: SANDY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2614 Postby wxman57 » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:50 am

clipper35 wrote:well wxman57 i respect all your forecasts on here but according to our mets the worst will be this aft/tonight they are only calling for winds to possible tropical storm strength and sustained winds of 25/30 and they are calling for winds tomorrow only to be 15/25 mph gust to 30 so they must see something different.........just my opinion


Those winds are way too low. You may have TS winds though noon tomorrow.
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#2615 Postby KBBOCA » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:54 am

The Battery tide guage - already 8 ft observations?

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Re: ATL: SANDY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2616 Postby storm4u » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:54 am

I bet you wont be saying that later

clipper35 wrote:well here in southern new england it seems like it was hyped to much this is a typical noreaster for most of us with beach erosion and coastal flooding winds are not bad we have gust to 35 at times but sustained at 23/26 as far as tropical storm strength winds i doubt we will see them up here as big as this storm is the wind field for the tropical storm strength gusts has retracted to 452 miles from 542 last night and most of the tropical storm gusts are in the northwest part in the storm according to nhc recon yes the mid atlantic will get the brunt of this storm, as far as rain most forecasts up here are calling for scattered showers with a 1/2 inch to 1 inch rainfall amounts and yes most of u are saying its still early it will get bad maybe but most of the highways are packed with commuters going into work and most supermarkets and restaurants are open southern new england is seeing a classic noreaster this is typical for this part of the country the storm may be at a all time low pressure and that is historic....
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Re: ATL: SANDY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2617 Postby tolakram » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:55 am

Blown Away wrote:I gues looks can be deceiving because Sandy doesn't look that tropical on the IR loop. JMH amateur opinion only.


IR Loop pretty useless right now, and also remember the higher latitude a storm is the more shallow the convection.

Convection still building near the center but just about to run out of warm water.

http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/~rabin/goes14/loop_srso.html
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#2618 Postby wxman57 » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:55 am

KBBOCA wrote:The Battery tide guage - already 8 ft observations?

http://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/cgi-bi ... ot_backup=


Note that 8ft tide is 3ft above normal tide levels (blue trace).
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Re: ATL: SANDY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2619 Postby GoneBabyGone » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:56 am

Image - Yesterday

Image - Just now

This is gonna be bad.
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Re: ATL: SANDY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2620 Postby storm4u » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:58 am

I dont know what mets your listening to but they are dead wrong.. watch necn or nbc30ct they are doing an awesome job

Your worst will be tonight/tomorrow, not this morning (if you're in Rhode Island).[/quote]
well wxman57 i respect all your forecasts on here but according to our mets the worst will be this aft/tonight they are only calling for winds to possible tropical storm strength and sustained winds of 25/30 and they are calling for winds tomorrow only to be 15/25 mph gust to 30 so they must see something different.........just my opinion[/quote]
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