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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#2701 Postby orangeblood » Sun Jan 05, 2025 1:18 pm

EPS main axis is locked in!!! The fringes are going to take awhile to define

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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#2702 Postby Ntxw » Sun Jan 05, 2025 1:29 pm

Saving for future reference if this becomes the benchmark 5h for some. You just don't see this very often in Texas, more on the east coast.

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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#2703 Postby Texas Snow » Sun Jan 05, 2025 1:30 pm

Still waiting to takeoff and saw Evan Andrews post which makes a couple good points.

As we finally get into the colder air today, we move to the next storm. Global models are finally starting to agree that we have a system on the way Thursday and Thursday night.

This graphic shows we have a low pressure trough in northern Mexico Thursday AM that will kick out and head into Texas. Recall a couple of days ago there were solutions that showed it spinning away and staying in Mexico...and others showing dry air pushing it south.

So at this point we know the pattern. Now, the fine tuning won't kick in until tomorrow as it hasn't even entered the US yet. Depending on the strength of the system, some models pull up enough warm air ALOFT to yield more rain than snow. Others have more snow than rain. Fortunately none indicate an ice storm. And temps will be close to freezing that day.

The way it looks as of TODAY, is that it will go back and forth between rain and snow from DFW south Thursday...before ending as some snow Thursday night. Areas north and west will see more snow. I'm not stupid enough to post model output of snow four days out because models don't take into account melting with temps near freezing and almost always overpredict #'s. And literally ONE degree either way could mean the difference of 4" of snow versus slushy rain. That degree of fine tuning from the data does not exist yet.

It's Sunday. It will be DRY Monday-Tuesday and likely Wednesday.
We'll have more accurate info by this time tomorrow. Enjoy!
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#2704 Postby Brent » Sun Jan 05, 2025 1:31 pm

JayDT wrote:I don’t know if it’s just me not paying attention to that, but I had never heard of a Cold Weather Advisory.


It's the replacement for wind chill advisories. Gonna be permanent when we get super cold in other words
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#2705 Postby snownado » Sun Jan 05, 2025 1:32 pm

Brent wrote:
JayDT wrote:I don’t know if it’s just me not paying attention to that, but I had never heard of a Cold Weather Advisory.


It's the replacement for wind chill advisories. Gonna be permanent when we get super cold


Winter Weather Advisories are also going away (though not for another year, I believe).
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#2706 Postby orangeblood » Sun Jan 05, 2025 1:34 pm

Texas Snow wrote:Still waiting to takeoff and saw Evan Andrews post which makes a couple good points.

As we finally get into the colder air today, we move to the next storm. Global models are finally starting to agree that we have a system on the way Thursday and Thursday night.

This graphic shows we have a low pressure trough in northern Mexico Thursday AM that will kick out and head into Texas. Recall a couple of days ago there were solutions that showed it spinning away and staying in Mexico...and others showing dry air pushing it south.

So at this point we know the pattern. Now, the fine tuning won't kick in until tomorrow as it hasn't even entered the US yet. Depending on the strength of the system, some models pull up enough warm air ALOFT to yield more rain than snow. Others have more snow than rain. Fortunately none indicate an ice storm. And temps will be close to freezing that day.

The way it looks as of TODAY, is that it will go back and forth between rain and snow from DFW south Thursday...before ending as some snow Thursday night. Areas north and west will see more snow. I'm not stupid enough to post model output of snow four days out because models don't take into account melting with temps near freezing and almost always overpredict #'s. And literally ONE degree either way could mean the difference of 4" of snow versus slushy rain. That degree of fine tuning from the data does not exist yet.

It's Sunday. It will be DRY Monday-Tuesday and likely Wednesday.
We'll have more accurate info by this time tomorrow. Enjoy!


Evan loves him some Bi Polar GFS
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#2707 Postby JayDT » Sun Jan 05, 2025 1:37 pm

Brent wrote:
JayDT wrote:I don’t know if it’s just me not paying attention to that, but I had never heard of a Cold Weather Advisory.


It's the replacement for wind chill advisories. Gonna be permanent when we get super cold in other words


Ohh okay got it. It does sound more straightforward than Wind Chill Advisory. Thank you!
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#2708 Postby gpsnowman » Sun Jan 05, 2025 1:37 pm

orangeblood wrote:
Texas Snow wrote:Still waiting to takeoff and saw Evan Andrews post which makes a couple good points.

As we finally get into the colder air today, we move to the next storm. Global models are finally starting to agree that we have a system on the way Thursday and Thursday night.

This graphic shows we have a low pressure trough in northern Mexico Thursday AM that will kick out and head into Texas. Recall a couple of days ago there were solutions that showed it spinning away and staying in Mexico...and others showing dry air pushing it south.

So at this point we know the pattern. Now, the fine tuning won't kick in until tomorrow as it hasn't even entered the US yet. Depending on the strength of the system, some models pull up enough warm air ALOFT to yield more rain than snow. Others have more snow than rain. Fortunately none indicate an ice storm. And temps will be close to freezing that day.

The way it looks as of TODAY, is that it will go back and forth between rain and snow from DFW south Thursday...before ending as some snow Thursday night. Areas north and west will see more snow. I'm not stupid enough to post model output of snow four days out because models don't take into account melting with temps near freezing and almost always overpredict #'s. And literally ONE degree either way could mean the difference of 4" of snow versus slushy rain. That degree of fine tuning from the data does not exist yet.

It's Sunday. It will be DRY Monday-Tuesday and likely Wednesday.
We'll have more accurate info by this time tomorrow. Enjoy!


Evan loves him some Bi Polar GFS

Instead of saying "I'm not stupid enough", he should have said something like " It would be premature of me". Dude is bitter. As a professional he needs to be better than this .
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#2709 Postby Texas Snow » Sun Jan 05, 2025 1:44 pm

I agree but he just cracks me up rather than get upset. He’s still a good source to reference for storm insights along with the many others, including this page.

I think we are finally about to takeoff, puhlease! :lol:
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#2710 Postby gpsnowman » Sun Jan 05, 2025 1:46 pm

Texas Snow wrote:I agree but he just cracks me up rather than get upset. He’s still a good source to reference for storm insights along with the many others, including this page.

Agree. Just takes too many shots at weather enthusiasts. I enjoy his forecasts, been watching him for years.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#2711 Postby Texas Snow » Sun Jan 05, 2025 1:51 pm

My take is he takes shots at the people that post only asnowpocalypse shots to social media to get clicks and make money off hysteria not people that post inside a forum like this and show both good and bad outputs as they actually discuss the and possible outcomes.

Shutting down. See ya in chilly Texas
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#2712 Postby Ntxw » Sun Jan 05, 2025 1:52 pm

For posterity. Feb 2010 you North Texans who remember.

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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#2713 Postby txtwister78 » Sun Jan 05, 2025 1:58 pm

Texas Snow wrote:Still waiting to takeoff and saw Evan Andrews post which makes a couple good points.

As we finally get into the colder air today, we move to the next storm. Global models are finally starting to agree that we have a system on the way Thursday and Thursday night.

This graphic shows we have a low pressure trough in northern Mexico Thursday AM that will kick out and head into Texas. Recall a couple of days ago there were solutions that showed it spinning away and staying in Mexico...and others showing dry air pushing it south.

So at this point we know the pattern. Now, the fine tuning won't kick in until tomorrow as it hasn't even entered the US yet. Depending on the strength of the system, some models pull up enough warm air ALOFT to yield more rain than snow. Others have more snow than rain. Fortunately none indicate an ice storm. And temps will be close to freezing that day.

The way it looks as of TODAY, is that it will go back and forth between rain and snow from DFW south Thursday...before ending as some snow Thursday night. Areas north and west will see more snow. I'm not stupid enough to post model output of snow four days out because models don't take into account melting with temps near freezing and almost always overpredict #'s. And literally ONE degree either way could mean the difference of 4" of snow versus slushy rain. That degree of fine tuning from the data does not exist yet.

It's Sunday. It will be DRY Monday-Tuesday and likely Wednesday.
We'll have more accurate info by this time tomorrow. Enjoy!


I think that's a great summary of this event in terms of the complexity of forecasting out ahead and realizing there are still ways this can go either way.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#2714 Postby Ntxw » Sun Jan 05, 2025 2:13 pm

Watch 850mb front on Weds especially to the west. If there is light snow it would be with this feature.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#2715 Postby losf1981 » Sun Jan 05, 2025 2:16 pm

Ntxw wrote:For posterity. Feb 2010 you North Texans who remember.

https://i.imgur.com/zFZwzQY.gif

https://i.imgur.com/527t45W.png


weather newb here.....how does this week's setup compare?
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#2716 Postby Ntxw » Sun Jan 05, 2025 2:18 pm

losf1981 wrote:
Ntxw wrote:For posterity. Feb 2010 you North Texans who remember.

https://i.imgur.com/zFZwzQY.gif

https://i.imgur.com/527t45W.png


weather newb here.....how does this week's setup compare?


Quite similar. No two patterns are exactly alike but placement of Northern Mexico ULL, incoming northern stream to phase, coastal low formation, cold prior but not bitter barely enough, blizzard just to the north days ahead, it's uncanny a bit.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#2717 Postby Stratton23 » Sun Jan 05, 2025 2:20 pm

You north texans enjoy this event, hopefully yall cash in big time, just hope us se texans have a chance at some point down the road to see something other than miserable cold rain
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#2718 Postby Gotwood » Sun Jan 05, 2025 2:33 pm

Stratton23 wrote:You north texans enjoy this event, hopefully yall cash in big time, just hope us se texans have a chance at some point down the road to see something other than miserable cold rain

Your overall good attitude and optimism this entire season so far deserves to be rewarded I’m hoping you get some winter weather.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#2720 Postby Iceresistance » Sun Jan 05, 2025 2:41 pm

13z NWS-Blend, got this from another forum

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