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Re: Tropical Wave in Western Caribbean

#281 Postby NDG » Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:22 am

0z Euro IR simulation forecast, at least lots of rains headed for LA.

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Re: Tropical Wave in Western Caribbean

#282 Postby SoupBone » Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:46 am

NDG wrote:0z Euro IR simulation forecast, at least lots of rains headed for LA.

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Dude, Louisiana does not need rain, at all.
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Re: Tropical Wave in Western Caribbean

#283 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Aug 20, 2019 7:42 am

Wave axis is quite clear north of Honduras.
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Re: Tropical Wave in Western Caribbean

#284 Postby Nederlander » Tue Aug 20, 2019 7:54 am

Shear is definitely down ahead of it in the sw Gulf. Just one pocket of 20+ kt in the BoC that looks to be shrinking and moving sw
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Re: Tropical Wave in Western Caribbean

#285 Postby wxman57 » Tue Aug 20, 2019 7:55 am

Nothing significant indicated on the latest surface plot (ignore my red mouse arrow, though that may not be far from the wave axis). Hopefully, we get some rain out of it in SE TX later this week. Development chances very low.

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Re: Tropical Wave in Western Caribbean

#286 Postby SoupBone » Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:02 am

wxman57 wrote:Nothing significant indicated on the latest surface plot (ignore my red mouse arrow, though that may not be far from the wave axis). Hopefully, we get some rain out of it in SE TX later this week. Development chances very low.

http://wxman57.com/images/WCarib.JPG


What specifically is keeping the chances low? Shear dropping, what's impeding it?
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Re: Tropical Wave in Western Caribbean

#287 Postby stormlover2013 » Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:04 am

wouldn't surprise me we can a depression out of this
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Re: Tropical Wave in Western Caribbean

#288 Postby Cpv17 » Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:21 am

wxman57 wrote:Nothing significant indicated on the latest surface plot (ignore my red mouse arrow, though that may not be far from the wave axis). Hopefully, we get some rain out of it in SE TX later this week. Development chances very low.

http://wxman57.com/images/WCarib.JPG


I doubt we’ll get much out of this. Maybe the eastern 1/3 of Southeast TX could see a little bit. This looks Louisiana bound once again.
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Re: Tropical Wave in Western Caribbean

#289 Postby SoupBone » Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:38 am

Cpv17 wrote:
wxman57 wrote:Nothing significant indicated on the latest surface plot (ignore my red mouse arrow, though that may not be far from the wave axis). Hopefully, we get some rain out of it in SE TX later this week. Development chances very low.

http://wxman57.com/images/WCarib.JPG


I doubt we’ll get much out of this. Maybe the eastern 1/3 of Southeast TX could see a little bit. This looks Louisiana bound once again.


So Beaumont, East, with maybe a little rain for Houston. This area really needs it right now.
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Re: Tropical Wave in Western Caribbean

#290 Postby Nimbus » Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:50 am

Its a broad area of low pressure but if there is going to be a LLC I'm thinking it will be a little further south. Might see a circulation near Belize later.
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Re: Tropical Wave in Western Caribbean

#291 Postby SoupBone » Tue Aug 20, 2019 1:40 pm

Euro goes back to doing nothing with this thing. What are the ensembles showing?
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Re: Tropical Wave in Western Caribbean

#292 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Aug 20, 2019 1:55 pm

One thing im still finding odd is that the wave axis and energy are clearly farther north than the euro keeps showing. It has it hugging the souther BOC then western BOC before turning north and north east. Current trajectory would bring it well inthe north part of the BOC and west central to northern mexico latitude much sooner. Not sure if that will chamge much. But its worth noting.

Though it has slowed down it also looks to be faster. Wave axis crossing the coast of yucatan now. Well north of the models at least the 850mb vorticity. Just have to waitnamd see.
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Re: Tropical Wave in Western Caribbean

#293 Postby SoupBone » Tue Aug 20, 2019 1:57 pm

Weren't the models showing non-development because of the EPAC system, which is now forecast not to do a whole lot?
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Re: Tropical Wave in Western Caribbean

#294 Postby LarryWx » Tue Aug 20, 2019 1:58 pm

Is this wave leading to TC genesis at hour 48 on the 12Z Euro in the FL Straits?? If so, that then very weak surface low then moves very slowly north over S FL pen and then gets to just offshore the SE US below the big NE US surface high before then moving very slowly NE just offshore the US east coast while getting a bit stronger. Anyone else see this and, if so, is this from this W Caribbean wave? Regardless, the 12Z Euro has what looks like the start of TC genesis from something at hour 48 that then moves very slowly north and then NE just offshore the east coast.
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Re: Tropical Wave in Western Caribbean

#295 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Aug 20, 2019 1:59 pm

And the 12z euro takes this wave inalnd than back diving sw over the ne gulf at end of run. Completely trapped buy big ridge
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Re: Tropical Wave in Western Caribbean

#296 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Aug 20, 2019 2:02 pm

LarryWx wrote:Is this wave leading to TC genesis at hour 48 on the 12Z Euro in the FL Straits?? If so, that then very weak surface low then moves very slowly north over S FL pen and then gets to just offshore the SE US below the big NE US surface high before then moving very slowly NE just offshore the US east coast while getting a bit stronger. Anyone else see this and, if so, is this from this W Caribbean wave?


It sure does. Looks like the wave splits especially cuba cuts it in half. Pieces shoot wnw and now as you mentioned take the Ne portion (or a combination of the wave and that energy that was interacting with the upper low or both) and slowly develops it.
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Re: Tropical Wave in Western Caribbean

#297 Postby crownweather » Tue Aug 20, 2019 2:28 pm

LarryWx wrote:Is this wave leading to TC genesis at hour 48 on the 12Z Euro in the FL Straits?? If so, that then very weak surface low then moves very slowly north over S FL pen and then gets to just offshore the SE US below the big NE US surface high before then moving very slowly NE just offshore the US east coast while getting a bit stronger. Anyone else see this and, if so, is this from this W Caribbean wave? Regardless, the 12Z Euro has what looks like the start of TC genesis from something at hour 48 that then moves very slowly north and then NE just offshore the east coast.


GEFS model shows something very similar with quite a few members showing low pressure in the Florida Straits on Saturday that ends up nearly stalled along the Atlantic SE US coast next week.

Pattern recognition of a large high over the northeast US suggests in close development might be a concern next week.
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Re: Tropical Wave in Western Caribbean

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Re: Tropical Wave in Western Caribbean

#299 Postby Dylan » Tue Aug 20, 2019 2:48 pm

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Re: Tropical Wave in Western Caribbean

#300 Postby LarryWx » Tue Aug 20, 2019 2:49 pm

crownweather wrote:
LarryWx wrote:Is this wave leading to TC genesis at hour 48 on the 12Z Euro in the FL Straits?? If so, that then very weak surface low then moves very slowly north over S FL pen and then gets to just offshore the SE US below the big NE US surface high before then moving very slowly NE just offshore the US east coast while getting a bit stronger. Anyone else see this and, if so, is this from this W Caribbean wave? Regardless, the 12Z Euro has what looks like the start of TC genesis from something at hour 48 that then moves very slowly north and then NE just offshore the east coast.


GEFS model shows something very similar with quite a few members showing low pressure in the Florida Straits on Saturday that ends up nearly stalled along the Atlantic SE US coast next week.

Pattern recognition of a large high over the northeast US suggests in close development might be a concern next week.


And just like that the brand new EPS (12Z) coming out as I type this has ~25% of its 50+ members with sub 1,000 mb pressure and ~12% with sub 992 mb. The prior runs had much less activity then and there. The primary threat landfall threat area per this run would be eastern NC as well as eastern New England and the Canadian Maritimes. One US landfall is as early as 6 days from now (8/26) in Maine of all places with others as late as ~9/1. Watch out as this may sneak up on us.

Check out the large increase in activity showing up on this for the 1st 10 days of the latest EPS run (goes through 12Z of 8/30 though there's also some activity after this ends)!
https://weather.us/cyclone-tracks/euro/ ... 2-240.html
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