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#281 Postby southerngale » Thu Dec 08, 2005 1:06 pm

cctxhurricanewatcher wrote: We need good fireplace weather for the 24th and 25th. Lighting a fireplace in 60 degree weather sucks.


Yeah, it kinda loses that special something when you have to turn on your A/C just to have a fire.
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#282 Postby Johnny » Thu Dec 08, 2005 1:28 pm

Precipitation is showing up pretty good in South, Texas pushing north north eastward. Will that be effecting our area?
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#283 Postby vbhoutex » Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:20 pm

hurrican19 wrote:It's still 42 here in Beaumont -- Yet, Houston is 34.. That cold air sure is slow moving Eastward!


It was/is very slow on the Eastward move. Yesterday it was freezing in Austin and we were in the 40's here till after about 10pm. Once it started falling here it was pretty steady, but the temps kept falling till about 9:30 this am which is unusual for us and they were obviously moving East as areas to my est were 5 degrees warmer. Now we are seeing a little bit of sun peak through so we may get up to around 40 today. Expecting a hard freeze over most areas tonight.
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#284 Postby corpusbreeze » Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:33 pm

Radar is showing mixed precip moving up north from Mex.If this continues on into tonight it could be another snow event for S. Tex. :lol: :D
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#285 Postby vbhoutex » Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:39 pm

If that doesn't slide off to the East we could very well see a problem from it overnight. Haven't looked yet to see if any AFD's are mentioning it. If we clear off like it looks like we might for a while. We could have good radiational cooling prior to that moving in, if it does, and that could spell frozen precip. We'll be watching for sure.
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#286 Postby f5 » Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:47 pm

its struggling to get out of the 20s here which is an average winter day in Chicago
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#287 Postby cctxhurricanewatcher » Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:53 pm

corpusbreeze wrote:Radar is showing mixed precip moving up north from Mex.If this continues on into tonight it could be another snow event for S. Tex. :lol: :D


I was wondering about that myself. Brownsville is reporting Heavy Rain and 36 degrees. Wow, from 80 something degrees to that in less than a week. :eek: You gotta love Texas weather!
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#288 Postby f5 » Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:56 pm

why is it south texas gets more snow than say except the panhandle when other areas are farther north
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#289 Postby Kelarie » Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:58 pm

Wondering if that stuff down south will creep up to central texas....

hmmm, wouldn't that be funny.
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#290 Postby m_ru » Thu Dec 08, 2005 3:04 pm

it's 29 and there is ice on some of the roads and in the trees here in Huntsville. Nothing heavy, but some of the pines out on highway 19 have enough ice to make their limbs bend quite a bit.
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#291 Postby cctxhurricanewatcher » Thu Dec 08, 2005 3:04 pm

f5 wrote:why is it south texas gets more snow than say except the panhandle when other areas are farther north


Global Warming! :sun: :roll:
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#292 Postby Brent » Thu Dec 08, 2005 3:08 pm

f5 wrote:why is it south texas gets more snow than say except the panhandle when other areas are farther north


Why is it South Texas has gotten significant snow(see Christmas 2004) and MS/AL/GA(at a HIGHER latitude) haven't gotten a flake? It's beyond annoying...
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#293 Postby JenyEliza » Thu Dec 08, 2005 3:10 pm

Brent wrote:
f5 wrote:why is it south texas gets more snow than say except the panhandle when other areas are farther north


Why is it South Texas has gotten significant snow(see Christmas 2004) and MS/AL/GA(at a HIGHER latitude) haven't gotten a flake? It's beyond annoying...


You said it! :cry:
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#294 Postby Brent » Thu Dec 08, 2005 3:11 pm

JenyEliza wrote:
Brent wrote:
f5 wrote:why is it south texas gets more snow than say except the panhandle when other areas are farther north


Why is it South Texas has gotten significant snow(see Christmas 2004) and MS/AL/GA(at a HIGHER latitude) haven't gotten a flake? It's beyond annoying...


You said it! :cry:


I don't mean to complain... it's just sickening. I'm fine with South Texas getting snow as long as we get it to. :P
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#295 Postby Dr. Jonah Rainwater » Thu Dec 08, 2005 3:36 pm

We had school today. Double plus uncool. :grr:

Most of the ice glaze is melting away in the sunlight, even though it's below freezing out.
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#296 Postby Johnny » Thu Dec 08, 2005 3:59 pm

It looks like most of that moisture down in South, Texas is streaming out into the gulf. I have yet to hear the NWS or pro mets chime in on this so I don't think it will be an issue for us here in Southeast, Texas.
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#297 Postby Johnny » Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:18 pm

Concerning the precip down in South, Texas....



AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HOUSTON/GALVESTON TX
310 PM CST THU DEC 8 2005

.DISCUSSION...
THE TWO PRIMARY FORECAST CONCERNS IN THE SHORT TERM ARE HOW COLD IT IS
GOING TO GET TONIGHT AND WHETHER OR NOT ANY LIGHT PRECIPITATION WILL
OCCUR IN ASSOCIATION WITH THE SHORTWAVE AS IT IMPACTS THE AREA LATE
TONIGHT AND FRIDAY MORNING. HAVE SOME RESERVATIONS ABOUT HOW COLD IT
WILL REALLY GET TONIGHT BASED ON A FEW FACTORS. THE CLOUD COVER WILL
BE INCREASING OVER OUR SRN ZONES IN ASSOCIATION WITH THE APPROACHING
SHORTWAVE. IN ADDITION...SFC DEWPOINTS TODAY HAVE NOT FALLEN AS MUCH
AS EXPECTED...STILL HOLDING IN THE MID/UPPER 20S OVER THE AREA. AND
THE WINDS ARE LIKELY TO STAY UP AT LEAST IN THE 5 TO 10 MPH RANGE
OVERNIGHT. REGARDLESS...GIVEN CURRENT OBSERVATIONS ALL INLAND
AREAS WILL SEE MANY HOURS BELOW FREEZING. HAVE POSTED A FREEZE WARNING
FOR THE SE ZONES...THE AREAS THAT HAVE EITHER NOT SEEN A FREEZE YET OR
ONLY A VERY LIGHT FREEZE SO FAR. WILL LET THE NPW WIND ADVISORY EXPIRE
AT 00Z. ALL THE DETAILS ARE COVERED IN THE HWOHGX.

SHORTWAVE NOW OVER OLD MEXICO WILL TREK NORTHEAST AND PASS JUST
SOUTH OF THE AREA ON FRIDAY. WEAK ISENTROPIC LIFT WILL DEVELOP OVER
OUR COASTAL ZONES/WATERS TONIGHT/FRIDAY MORNING AHEAD OF THIS SYSTEM.
FORECAST MODEL SOUNDINGS SHOW MOST OF THE MOISTURE WILL BE AT THE MID
LEVELS (3000-5000 FT) WITH VERY DRY AIR AT THE SFC...INDICATING MOST
PRECIP WILL EVAPORATE BEFORE REACHING THE GROUND. AFTER COORD WITH
CRP...HAVE DECIDED TO GO WITH LOW POPS FOR JACKSON/MATAGORDA COUNTIES
LATE TONIGHT/FRIDAY. THIS WILL INCLUDE MENTION OF FREEZING RAIN FOR
INLAND AREAS GIVEN THE FORECAST TEMPS. GIVEN THE LOW PROBABILITY FOR
ANYTHING MEASURABLE WILL NOT ISSUE ANY TYPE OF WINTER WEATHER
HIGHLIGHT. FRIDAY WILL REMAIN A COLD DAY WITH ALL THE CLOUD COVER
LINGERING OVER THE AREA.
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#298 Postby jeff » Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:30 pm

It can never be easy.



Main concerns tonight are temps. and now chances for precip. along the coast and around Matagorda Bay. Who would think after a record breaking snow for deep S TX last year they would have an icing threat 1 year later and 2 weeks earlier?



Mexican short wave very well defined on water vapor images is moving NE toward SW TX currently. Radar echoes are increasing as far north as Laredo this afternoon. Given the cold arctic air mass in place it appears a winter weather event (icing and sleet) is possible tonight across deep south TX into the coastal bend and our SW counties. Tough call on how far north the precip. will make it as very low dewpoints and most of the moisture being in the mid levels should result in almost all of the stuff evaporating before it reaches the ground. My main concern is if the thing ejects further north and precip. does break out and then we have a big mess and a lot of surprised folks Friday morning.



For now will only go with freezing rain for Jackson and Matagorda counties although profiles favor sleet and snow. Little to no accumulation is expected so no advisories are needed, however to say the least it needs close watch.



Temperatures:



We should see partly cloudy skies early then increasing clouds around 1000pm as Mexican short wave approaches. Temp. forecast is a bigger headache as winds should stay between the 5-10mph range and sky conditions will be changing. Guidance is very low, but does not appears to be factoring in the increasing clouds. Ice across our northern and western areas along with forecasted lows in the low teens and single digits over N TX may mitigate the cloud factor. Will go a couple degrees above guidance. Fact is most everyone will freeze and for an extended period of time.



Point Forecast lows for Friday AM:



IAH: 27

Conroe: 24

Spring: 26

Tomball: 25

Cypress: 25

Katy: 26

Sugarland: 26

Hobby: 29

Galveston: 34

Bay City: 28

Wharton: 27

College Station: 22

Brenham: 24

Huntsville: 20

Humble: 27

League City: 30

Pearland: 28
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#299 Postby gboudx » Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:38 pm

Dr. Jonah Rainwater wrote:We had school today. Double plus uncool. :grr:

Most of the ice glaze is melting away in the sunlight, even though it's below freezing out.


Frisco ISD must've been about the only ISD not to close. My neice and nephew live in Frisco and had school today.
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#300 Postby f5 » Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:51 pm

the high on my theromontor was 29.5 at 1:30 this afternoon it has now fallen back to 26.2 and that is expeted to tank from here.there are still icicles still dangling around here
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