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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#321 Postby tailgater » Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:25 pm

ROCK wrote:easy now to see a developing center.....1KM scan...but its getting close to the Yucatan. Probably knock it down some as it moves across. I put it on the coast about 8pm tonight..

http://www.ghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/goeseastconus.html


At about 180 due east of the coast it would have to REALLY increase it's forward speed.
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#322 Postby Dean4Storms » Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:29 pm

Wow, this is really organizing fast this afternoon. Think we see a TS overnight or at least a TD. Don't know how fast NHC would pull the trigger on calling it a TS unless a buoy or ship get TS wind readings until Recon gets there.

I just don't see this missing the trough along the north Gulf Coast, I'm still in the NO to Panama City Bch. Camp!
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#323 Postby Rgv20 » Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:35 pm

Afternoon discussion out of the NWS in Brownsville..

ANOTHER IMPORTANT FEATURE ON THE LOOK OUT IS THE TROPICAL
DISTURBANCE EAST OF THE YUCATAN PENINSULA WHICH COULD MOVE INTO
STRONGER SHEAR ZONE ALONG THE TROUGH OVER THE EASTERN US OR COULD
TAKE A MORE SW TRACK AND MOVE ACROSS CENTRAL AMERICA THROUGH THE
WEEKEND. AT THIS TIME THE UPPER LEVEL HIGH PRESSURE WILL BE STRONG
ENOUGH TO BLOCK THE DISTURBANCE TO MOVE AWAY FROM THE RGV. THERE IS
SOME UNCERTAINTY EXACTLY TO WHERE WILL THIS DISTURBANCE WILL TAKE
BUT THE CHANCES OF REACHING THE CWA AT THIS TIME IS REALLY LOW.
NEXT WEEK...THE GFS AND ECMWF KEEP HIGH PRESSURE ELONGATED FROM THE
PACIFIC INTO THE FOUR CORNERS REGION UNBLOCKING THE CWA AND DEVELOPING
AN INVERTED TROUGH OVER THE GULF. IT IS EXPECTED TO MOVE ACROSS THE
AREA TUESDAY AND INCREASE THE CHANCE OF SHOWERS ALONG THE COAST AND
THE CENTRAL PORTION OF THE CWA TUESDAY. STAY TUNED TO ANY CHANGES
WITH THE DISTURBANCE AS CONDITIONS MAY CHANGE.
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#324 Postby Sanibel » Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:36 pm

Dean4Storms wrote:Wow, this is really organizing fast this afternoon. Think we see a TS overnight or at least a TD.




You can see it curling-up on RAMSDIS. I'll let you take the risk on final intensity since I have no clue.
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#325 Postby Tireman4 » Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:43 pm

Tim Heller, our local OCM in Houston, posted this on his Facebook page...

Our PinPoint FutureTrack takes the Caribbean storm into the Gulf, tracking toward New Orleans and/or Florida. That would leave us on the dry side of the circulation.

It strangely looks like he is using the European...

https://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?f ... =1&theater

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#326 Postby SunnyThoughts » Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:44 pm

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#327 Postby caneman » Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:45 pm

Have only checked Sat. a few times today and does seem to really coming together. Any West winds? Sue looks like a TD already.
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#328 Postby hurricanekid416 » Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:50 pm

I think a llc is forming where is wrapping up
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#329 Postby ROCK » Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:56 pm

I think the cloud tops are warming.... :wink:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#330 Postby cycloneye » Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:58 pm

ROCK wrote:I think the cloud tops are warming.... :wink:


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#331 Postby Rgv20 » Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:59 pm

Afternoon discussion from the NWS in Corpus Christi..

FORECAST GETS A BIT MURKIER FROM THERE ON OUT AS A WEAK TROPICAL LOW
BEGINS TO INFLUENCE WEATHER. MODEL SOLUTIONS RUN THE GAMUT FROM
CLOSED CIRCULATION LANDFALLING SOUTH OF BROWNSVILLE TO DISORGANIZED
CLUSTERS PUSHING ACROSS THE CENTRAL AND EASTERN GULF. FOR NOW WILL
STICK CLOSER TO OFFICIAL GUIDANCE AND KEEP FORECAST DRY THROUGH
MONDAY. MODELS SLIGHTLY MORE CONSISTENT IN INCREASING MOISTURE BY
MIDWEEK NEXT WEEK SO SLIGHT CHANCE POPS IN PREVIOUS FORECASTS FOR
TUESDAY STILL LOOK REASONABLE...THOUGH CONFIDENCE IS OBVIOUSLY LOW
GIVEN ALL THE UNCERTAINTY BETWEEN NOW AND THEN.
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#332 Postby gatorcane » Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:59 pm

Here is data from a buoy located a little to the north and west of where the center may be forming. Pressure is falling and winds are increasing out of the east.

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http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=42056
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#333 Postby Hurricane Alexis » Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:59 pm

This reminds me of Dorian. Has a strong MLC and looks like very nice but it's just a wave. Although I think this one will have more luck than Dorian ever had.


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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#334 Postby GCANE » Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:59 pm

Textbook warm core at 1C.

Relatively wide though.


http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/product ... 8_TANO.GIF
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#335 Postby GCANE » Wed Aug 14, 2013 4:00 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#336 Postby wxwatcher4405 » Wed Aug 14, 2013 4:05 pm

Is there a chance this makes it as far west as Tx/La border?
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#337 Postby gatorcane » Wed Aug 14, 2013 4:09 pm

Here is an image of where NHC has the low. Looks like it is on the western side of the big blob, so that would mean there is some shear impacting this system:

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#338 Postby Stormlover2012 » Wed Aug 14, 2013 4:10 pm

I don't think so, but I think we will see something this yr!! We shall see
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#339 Postby hurricanekid416 » Wed Aug 14, 2013 4:15 pm

gatorcane wrote:Here is an image of where NHC has the low. Looks like it is on the western side of the big blob, so that would mean there is some shear impacting this system:

Image



I doubt that's where the llc is if there was a llc which it may not have its where the storm is wrapping up not saying nhc is wrong because they are professionals
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#340 Postby fendie » Wed Aug 14, 2013 4:20 pm

NWS WFO in Houston/Galveston, TX is still not paying much mind to models regarding eventual track until a closed circulation forms... DISCO from 3:33 PM CST below:

NEXT ITEM OF INTEREST IS THE TROPICAL WAVE IN THE CARIBBEAN. SAT
PIX SHOWING THIS SYSTEM LOOKING BETTER. NOT GOING TO VENTURE TO
GUESS ON ITS EVENTUAL EVOLUTION/TRACK AT THIS POINT BUT SYNOPTIC
UPPER FLOW WILL CONSIST OF AMPLIFIED WRN RIDGE & ERN TROF. WE`LL
HAVE TO SEE IF THE TROF PULLS IT ON A MORE NWD TRACK OR IF IT
ISN`T FELT AS MUCH AND TAKES A MORE WNW TRACK. WE COULD DESCRIBE
WHAT ALL THE MODELS ARE CURRENTLY SHOWING - BUT WE`LL CONTINUE TO
SEE SIGNIFICANT RUN-TO-RUN CHANGES UNTIL A WELL DEFINED CENTER
DEVELOPS. YOU CAN DOWNLOAD OUR BRIEFING TO AREA EMERGENCY MANAGERS
TODAY OFF OUR TWITTER AND FACEBOOK PAGES IF INTERESTED. BUT FOR
NOW THE PLAN IS TO KEEP THE FCST PRETTY MUCH AS-IS TO KEEP FLIP
FLOPPING TO A MINIMUM. FWIW...ECMWF SEEMS TO HAVE LESS CONSISTENCY
ISSUES COMPARED TO GFS AND WOULD BE MODEL OF CHOICE ATTM IF FORCED
TO PICK. 47

The briefing for area emergency managers doesn't tell you anything that hasn't already been discussed here, but if you would like to download the PDF it can be found here:

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