ATL: IDA - Remnants - Discussion

[wx98]

Are you sure????

Katrina:

https://i.ibb.co/F0bX54L/03-F8-C805-489-A-4540-8-B00-D24-A1-BB5-E661.gif

Ida:

https://i.ibb.co/D1cWWcR/3373010-F-FBBF-4-EEF-8-A13-0-F8-A2-C368-E26.jpg

Yes I’m sure. Even based on the images you posted you can easily tell it is smaller. And unless the wind field has recently grown by 2.5 times, it is smaller as well.

I can do the math for you if I cared enough… not sure how you can make such a statement. I realize “MUCH” and “easily” are subjective words, but they are about the same size in the same place.

All I am saying is that Katrina had hurricane force winds extending over 105 miles from center. Until recently Ida’s extended 40 miles from center. Recent recon data suggest that is quickly expanding, but not near Katrina at this time.

[supercane4867]

CI just hit 6.0

CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
6.0 / 944.8mb/115.0kt


Final T# Adj T# Raw T#
6.0 6.3 6.3

Estimated radius of max. wind based on IR : 11 km

Center Temp : -4.7C Cloud Region Temp : -69.6C

Scene Type : EYE

[AJC3]

Are you sure????

Katrina:

https://i.ibb.co/F0bX54L/03-F8-C805-489-A-4540-8-B00-D24-A1-BB5-E661.gif

Ida:

https://i.ibb.co/D1cWWcR/3373010-F-FBBF-4-EEF-8-A13-0-F8-A2-C368-E26.jpg

Yes I’m sure. Even based on the images you posted you can easily tell it is smaller. And unless the wind field has recently grown by 2.5 times, it is smaller as well.

I can do the math for you if I cared enough… not sure how you can make such a statement. I realize “MUCH” and “easily” are subjective words, but they are about the same size in the same place.

One way to settle it is to simply look at the objective RMWs (listed in the TCM) for each storm. Otherwise, it's probably at the point where you both should take this sidebar to PMs. Thanks.

[Highteeld]

some WMG in the eye

[IsabelaWeather]

Huh, yeah, surprising that Katrina only had a ring of -70C to -75C CDO at max intensity. I guess what made Katrina so strong at her peak was the sheer size of the CDO and the perfect stadium-like structure of the eyewall.

Who knows, maybe Ida could get into the 920s in 12 hours. The ring of -70C to -75C CDO is taking shape...

And is it just me, or has Ida's forward speed slowed quite a bit all of a sudden?...

I mean, not really, I think you missed the point.

If katrina were 10 degress south it would have looks much more like Haiyan. The CDO wasnt -80 because its not supportable, so storms can get to incredible levels without looking like it.

The northern gulf is the most northern place we see limits of less than 900mb storms, in the ATL (I dont really follow other basins), but the atmosphere is a lot shallower. The highest the tropopause gets is in the ITCZ (i believe) so Haiyan maxed out at less than half the distance Katrina and Ida are at. Ida is north of 27 whereas Haiyan was around 12.

So I wouldnt judge Ida on max appearance on IR, the recon is much more important, IR is important to see structure and see if anything happens but you wont see -80 all the way around, the only time youll get 80s are overshooting towers.

[skyline385]

Yes I’m sure. Even based on the images you posted you can easily tell it is smaller. And unless the wind field has recently grown by 2.5 times, it is smaller as well.

I can do the math for you if I cared enough… not sure how you can make such a statement. I realize “MUCH” and “easily” are subjective words, but they are about the same size in the same place.

All I am saying is that Katrina had hurricane force winds extending over 105 miles from center. Until recently Ida’s extended 40 miles from center. Recent recon data suggest that is quickly expanding, but not near Katrina at this time.

Hurricane force winds actually extended 120 miles from center at landfall for Katrina...

[sikkar]

Black ring reigniting around the eye, the coming pass will be interesting.

[Hypercane_Kyle]

116 knot flight level winds & not even past the eyewall yet.

[wx98]

I can do the math for you if I cared enough… not sure how you can make such a statement. I realize “MUCH” and “easily” are subjective words, but they are about the same size in the same place.

All I am saying is that Katrina had hurricane force winds extending over 105 miles from center. Until recently Ida’s extended 40 miles from center. Recent recon data suggest that is quickly expanding, but not near Katrina at this time.

Hurricane force winds actually extended 120 miles from center at landfall for Katrina...

See you get my point.

[Valkhorn]

If katrina were 10 degress south it would have looks much more like Haiyan.

Haiyan was much stronger than Katrina was.

Katrina wasn't the strongest the GOM has ever had to offer either.

[wx98]

The winds on this next pass may bring this close to Cat 4.

[Texashawk]

We have a salmon FL-wind speed sighting. Repeat, code salmon. Not good. At all.

[supercane4867]

Starting to look a lot like Rita IMO

[ElectricStorm]

Those FL winds are skyrocketing at the end of that set. This next set could be pretty big

[Highteeld]

Totally nuclear storm.

[grapealcoholic]

30C is too warm to swim in

[sponger]

New Orleans is in big trouble. First big test of the post Katrina system. They made some impressive improvements but the weakest links may very well fail.

[ncskywarn]

Recon just found a 116 knot flight level winds which would equate to about 120 miles per hour on the surface.

[weeniepatrol]

[Highteeld]

Eye is starting to torch on Dvorak