2013 Steering Pattern / Early indicators
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Re: 2013 Steering Pattern / Early indicators
From what I have read, the phase of the IOD has very little known effects on overall tropical activity in Atlantic. If it does it is a very small percentage, IMO, there are so many other variables that make part of the equation.
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Re: 2013 Steering Pattern / Early indicators
Here is a video made by Levi Cowan where he makes an analysis of the factors that will lead to the season that is expected by the experts. The first part he talks about TD 2 and then the majority of it is about the factors.
http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/blog/201 ... he-season/
http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/blog/201 ... he-season/
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Re: 2013 Steering Pattern / Early indicators
Levi Cowan disagrees with JB:
Levi Cowan (@TropicalTidbits)
6/17/13 5:58 PM
@BigJoeBastardi I would bet effect of IOD is opposite. Positive phase shown to be unfavorable. goo.gl/55AwD pic.twitter.com/gQO7QXWpo5
Levi Cowan (@TropicalTidbits)
6/17/13 5:58 PM
@BigJoeBastardi I would bet effect of IOD is opposite. Positive phase shown to be unfavorable. goo.gl/55AwD pic.twitter.com/gQO7QXWpo5
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Curious question for anyone with info on it, which phases of the MJO tends to produce the most Atlantic hurricanes?
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http://typhoon.atmos.colostate.edu/Incl ... ch2010.pdf
I've always assumed it was the western Hemisphere phases, not so much based on this research
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baytownwx wrote:Levi Cowan disagrees with JB:
Levi Cowan (@TropicalTidbits)
6/17/13 5:58 PM
@BigJoeBastardi I would bet effect of IOD is opposite. Positive phase shown to be unfavorable. goo.gl/55AwD pic.twitter.com/gQO7QXWpo5
Levi Cowan seems to be correct.
Positive IOD = increased vertical shear and decreased vertical instability
From CSU´s "SUMMARY OF 2011 ATLANTIC TROPICAL CYCLONE ACTIVITY:
Anomalously cool sub-tropical Atlantic SSTs and a positive Indian
Ocean Dipole (IOD) event were likely responsible for the stronger vertical shear and
drier mid-levels that were experienced this year compared with 2010. This stronger-thannormal vertical shear and drier-than-normal middle levels in the atmosphere were
responsible for the unexpectedly low levels of more intense TC activity.
http://tropical.atmos.colostate.edu/for ... ov2011.pdf
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Re: 2013 Steering Pattern / Early indicators
Another evidence contrary from what JB is saying about the Indian Dipole is this PDF paper by NHC about a summary of the 2011. Go to pages 9-11.
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/e ... y_2011.pdf
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/e ... y_2011.pdf
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ninel conde wrote:joe bastardi is saying the IOD has flipped to negative?
That is what he is saying I believe. But as NDG said there is little research on how much the IOD effects the Atlantic and it's possible very little. However convection in the IO does have a noteable influence as posted via MJO paper, not sure how the IOD effects it though.
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Re: 2013 Steering Pattern / Early indicators
Here is this week's update by the Global Hazard folks of CPC. It looks like no TC for the next 2 weeks in North Atlantic.

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/p ... /ghazards/

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/p ... /ghazards/
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cycloneye wrote:Here is this week's update by the Global Hazard folks of CPC. It looks like no TC for the next 2 weeks in North Atlantic.
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/p ... /ghazards/
but after that all bets are off
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Hurricaneman wrote:cycloneye wrote:Here is this week's update by the Global Hazard folks of CPC. It looks like no TC for the next 2 weeks in North Atlantic.
http://oi40.tinypic.com/54d1n4.jpg
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/p ... /ghazards/
but after that all bets are off
YAAAAAWN. I have been waiting SOOO long for Barrry to come and it's not even happening; TD 2 won't become Barry. YAAAAAWN.
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RainbowAppleJackDash wrote:Hurricaneman wrote:cycloneye wrote:Here is this week's update by the Global Hazard folks of CPC. It looks like no TC for the next 2 weeks in North Atlantic.
http://oi40.tinypic.com/54d1n4.jpg
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/p ... /ghazards/
but after that all bets are off
YAAAAAWN. I have been waiting SOOO long for Barrry to come and it's not even happening; TD 2 won't become Barry. YAAAAAWN.
one storm in June is above average, some years even hyperactive ones don't get started until August so if something happens after week 2 it should be considered a bonus
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We've had at least one storm in June for the past three years now. With two of the many June TC's becoming hurricanes which is very rare to have early in the season. In 2010 there was Hurricane Alex which was right below major hurricane status (110mph). 2011 had TS Arlene. 2012 had Cat.1 Hurricane Chris which also formed in the far North Atlantic which made it even more rare followed by TS Debby. This year we have already seen TS Andrea and TD #2. (Barry??) A typical June should have one named storm every two years.
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Re: 2013 Steering Pattern / Early indicators
I'm hoping its nothing like July of 2005, but a hurricane or 2 in July that makes landfall wouldn't surprise me in the least with the 500mb ridge and the MJO pulse but the thing that could save anyone with a landfall is shear so lets hope that stays put
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One thing I am noticing here in South Florida that I haven't seen in June in many years is deep easterly flow with African Dust and dry hazy skies that you would see start more in the mid July timeframe.
This could be an early indicator that the steering flow might be in place this year come the peak months of Aug-September to bring Cape Verde systems from the far East Atlantic towards Florida and the SE US like the steering flow we saw in 2004.
In fact, looking at the extended forecast from NWS Miami the pattern continues:
LONG TERM (SUNDAY NIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY)...
A DEEP EASTERLY FLOW WILL BE ESTABLISHED ALL OF NEXT WEEK WITH
FORECAST SOUNDINGS SHOWING PWAT AT AROUND 1.6-1.7 INCHES SO
SLIGHTLY BELOW THE LATE JUNE AVERAGE WHICH IS ABOUT 1.75 INCHES.
STEERING FLOW WILL BE SUCH THAT THE BEST CHANCES FOR RAINFALL WILL
BE ALONG THE ATLANTIC COAST DURING THE LATE NIGHT AND EARLY
MORNING SHIFTING TO THE INTERIOR AND GULF COAST DURING THE
AFTERNOON AND EVENINGS
http://forecast.weather.gov/product.php ... glossary=1
Of course the long wave pattern does change and could feature more troughiness along the Eastern CONUS come Aug-September. Just something I am noticing that might be an early indicator.
This could be an early indicator that the steering flow might be in place this year come the peak months of Aug-September to bring Cape Verde systems from the far East Atlantic towards Florida and the SE US like the steering flow we saw in 2004.
In fact, looking at the extended forecast from NWS Miami the pattern continues:
LONG TERM (SUNDAY NIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY)...
A DEEP EASTERLY FLOW WILL BE ESTABLISHED ALL OF NEXT WEEK WITH
FORECAST SOUNDINGS SHOWING PWAT AT AROUND 1.6-1.7 INCHES SO
SLIGHTLY BELOW THE LATE JUNE AVERAGE WHICH IS ABOUT 1.75 INCHES.
STEERING FLOW WILL BE SUCH THAT THE BEST CHANCES FOR RAINFALL WILL
BE ALONG THE ATLANTIC COAST DURING THE LATE NIGHT AND EARLY
MORNING SHIFTING TO THE INTERIOR AND GULF COAST DURING THE
AFTERNOON AND EVENINGS
http://forecast.weather.gov/product.php ... glossary=1
Of course the long wave pattern does change and could feature more troughiness along the Eastern CONUS come Aug-September. Just something I am noticing that might be an early indicator.
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