Israel strikes Lebanon

[SouthFloridawx]

Israel handles 72 hour ultimatum to Syria



Here is where this may expand to other countries.I would haved included Iran in the ultimatum.

Well that is not good... I know my eyes have been glued to cnn today. Cnn seems to have the best coverage out of all major networks.

[Derek Ortt]

finally, Israel is getting to the root of the problem

[kevin]

Well I have to say the Syrian regime has had it coming for years.

I believe that it was LBJ who said 'The Syrians are mother*expletive*ers'. They basically created the crisis that led to the Six Days War. (Oren, "Six Days of War")

[SouthFloridawx]

I think the bombing of civilian territory in Lebanon is not needed. Isreal is saying that it has nothing to do with the civilians but, their actions are not what they are saying IMO.

I am condemning these attacks on Lebanon by Isreal.

[SouthFloridawx]

BEIRUT, Lebanon (CNN) -- Lebanese Prime Minister Fouad Siniora on Saturday called Israel's military a "war machine" and said attacks had turned his country into a "disaster zone."
Israeli warplanes struck Lebanese port cities, the capital Beirut and the border area near Syria, as Hezbollah launched scores of rockets from Lebanon into Israel on the fourth day of violence.

Siniora called for an immediate cease-fire and international help to stop attacks from Israel's "war machine," according to CNN's translation.

Such a ceasefire, he said, will allow Lebanon to "establish its sovereignty over all its lands" based on the 1949 armistice agreement.

"We are pained as well as angry, yet determined and patient," Siniora said, adding that "these are hours for unity, not for division."

He said Israel was "punishing all Lebanese collectively, with their actions lacking any moral or legal legitimacy."
An Israel Foreign Ministry spokesman responded to Siniora's remarks, saying that Lebanon triggered the crisis by failing to disarm Hezbollah.

"This whole crisis was initiated by aggression by Lebanon into Israel," said Mark Regev.

If Siniora "had done his job correctly," followed relevant U.N. Security Council resolutions and disarmed Hezbollah, "this crisis would have been averted," Regev added.

Israel is willing to implement a cease-fire in accordance with those resolutions, he said.

Civilians killed
Israel intensified its attacks from air, sea and land Saturday on targets such as Beirut and the ports of Tripoli, Amchit and Junieh, according to Lebanese media.

Israel's campaign began when Hezbollah militants based in Lebanon abducted two Israeli soldiers and killed three others during a raid into Israel Wednesday. Israel vowed to free the soldiers.

In his remarks Saturday, Siniora reiterated that the Lebanese government had no knowledge of Hezbollah's plans.

At least 85 Lebanese civilians have been killed, and 229 people have been wounded, according to Lebanese authorities.
Four Israeli civilians, eight soldiers and one sailor have died, Israeli authorities said, adding that 100 other Israelis have been wounded. Three sailors are missing.

Israeli warplanes hit Hezbollah's main headquarters in Beirut, which was struck Friday as well, according to Lebanese interior ministry officials. No casualties were reported from those strikes, the officials said.

The IDF confirmed the aerial attack, saying, "The state of Israel warned the Lebanese population who are present at the compound or around it, using leaflets and different means of communication, to stay clear from the site for their own safety."

Al-Jazeera, the Arabic-language TV network, reported that the headquarters of Hezbollah's spiritual leader, Mohammed Hussein Fadlallah, was targeted.

Israel also said it had attacked the Beirut headquarters of Hamas, the Palestinian movement that dominates the Palestinian Authority government.

Earlier on Saturday, an Israeli airstrike near Tyre hit a minibus carrying 20 civilians, killing at least 15 of them, Lebanese internal security sources said.

The IDF said it was making "every effort" to avoid civilian casualties, adding: "Responsibility for endangering civilian population rests on the Hezbollah terror organization, which operates and launches missiles at Israel from populated civilian areas."

More than 75 rockets were fired at Israeli towns on Saturday, the IDF said.

One barrage struck Nahariya, a northwestern town near the Lebanese border. There were no immediate reports of injuries.

The town has been targeted by Hezbollah rocket strikes since the conflict between Israel and the Lebanese-based guerrilla group started Wednesday.

To guard against Katyusha rockets, missile batteries were deployed in Haifa, video from the scene showed.

[canegrl04]

Sources confirm IRANIAN ELIT E GUARD members are in lebanon,and they are firing Katyusha missiles into Israel.SOmething needs to be done about Iran real quick like http://www.worldnetdaily.com

[Derek Ortt]

Iran needs to be bombed back to the stone age. A harsh example needs to be made out of them

[Janice]

Well, we don't know what is in a plan. Maybe they will not be here for long..... We do not know what the US and other countries have planned for them. I am sure the UN and other countries know now that they cannot play Irans game now. Time is out.

What makes matters worse is that North Korea and Iran know that the UN will never do anything. Sanctions and resolutions are a joke. And we just sit back and watch all this. Maybe they think we are a joke too.

[SouthFloridawx]

This is going to get much more ugly than it is now.

[Audrey2Katrina]

I am condemning these attacks on Lebanon by Isreal.

While I truly hate to see civilians get caught up in a conflict not decidedly of their own making; I think this blanket condemnation is premature. Israel is a VERY tiny nation--that has been surrounded by a bunch of hostile bullies who've been determined to push them off the planet since the day their nation was re-established after WWII. They played the "nice guys" for a VERY long time, and watched quite literally MILLIONS of their people die horribly because of the basest hate-filled bigotry imaginable. They're very intelligent people, superb fighters, and they're just NOT going to take it any more, and I don't blame them a bit.

The terrorist organizations like Hamas, and Hezbollah are NOTORIOUS for killing countless innocent civillians--they actually TARGET women and children--events like weddings, hospitals, and schools... something that Israel has NEVER done. Then the terrorist SCUM run into civillian areas figuring that Israel is in a lose lose situation whereby they simply cannot strike back. Thank GOD that not everyone believes in fighting a war with a touchy-feely PC mentality. It's fighting a PC war that has gotten the US into two VERY ugly quagmires--first Vietnam, and now (unless it hopefully changes) Iraq. The people of Israel KNOW they can't afford that kind of long-term war. The Terrorists outnumber them by 1,000 to 1, and would undoubtedly wear them down if granted the time they so desperately cry for. The Jewish nation allowed (for lack of a better word) one holocaust to happen in the 30's and 40's of the 20th Century... and they're not ABOUT to sit back and let these DIRTBAGS who hit innocent people, then use their own innocents as shields to get away with it. I don't blame them ONE LITTLE BIT.

Had the United States NOT nuked "innocent civilian" targets like Hiroshima, and Nagasaki, in Japan, and carpet bombed German cities MERCILESSLY (like Hamburg--which had MORE deaths than either of the nuked cities of Japan)... it's quite possible that we'd be speaking German or Japanese today, and saluting a Fuehrer. Sherman put it best: "WAR IS HELL"... but unless you go after the enemy, ruthlessly, and do what you have to do to bring about a quick end, in which, sadly, some innocents WILL get caught up, then you truly CONDEMN a LOT more innocent people to a protracted conflict that will go on for more decades of PC back and forth BS, while more and more "innocent" civillians die. The problem is that the Israelis have FAR less innocents to expend than do the horrible terrorists they are surrounded by. Their only "advantage" is that they have a superb military, and are notoriously reputed for the fact that they WILL strike, and strike HARD at anyone truly threatening them any more.

The days of Israel sitting back and just watching their population be decimated by a truly EVIL organization/state, hell bent on real genocide... are gone. If the Arab states around Israel push this too far---it will get ugly.... VERY ugly... and those Arab states just might find out they've bitten off a LOT more than they can chew--as they did in the now legendary "Six-Day War" in which Israel literally kicked the butts of every one of their hostile neighbors in record time.

No more genocide in the Middle East... Israel is sending out a flare declaring LOUD and CLEAR: "We just Ain't gonna take it any more!" and I think it's high-time they do. I DEEPLY regret innocet victims on EITHER side; but I equally have enough of an understanding of war to know.. **** happens, and when you fight, if you intend to win, you have to worry about tending the needs of the innocent AFTER you've achieved objective #1... and that's winning the war.

I dearly hope and pray that Israel survives what will almost assuredly be yet another onslaught of terrorist war waged against the ONLY democracy (and TRUE US ally) in the Middle East. As far as Syria is concerned--they can ...(fill in the appropriate expletives)

Shalom! In it's proper time.

(And no, I'm not Jewish--but I DO know who's on the right in this conflict! )

A2K

[Janice]

Any word from the inside if we have troops, planes, ships, etc. on route?

[Derek Ortt]

for once we agree on something, A2K

The Kosovo War was a perfect example of how a PC war does not work. Clinton tried it in the first month and it was a joke. Whgen Blair started calling more of the shots, the war quickly ended. The best example was the Serbs trying to "protect" their Yugo factory by staying there overnight. The result was still a destroyed factory and 130 dead Serbs

[SouthFloridawx]

A2K I understand what you are saying about the attacks by Hezbollah on Isreali/Mid-East innocent civilians but, I never like to see innocent civilians being attacked. It just kind of hits me in a weird place for some reason. I understand that Isreal needs to do something to defend themselves but, they are being seen as the Military Bullies in this situation. I don't feel bad for Isreal because that have gotten help from the US via money/weaponry. As we have seen in the last 4 days just because they have been bullied they can certainly dish it out also. I just wish there was some peaceful way to fix it but, that is just my liberal opinion and I am biased.

[Janice]

We all have opinions here. Let's express them and respect everyones. A good time to put our two cents in and express how we feel. We may not all agree, but that is ok.

[SouthFloridawx]

We all have opinions here. Let's express them and respect everyones. A good time to put our two cents in and express how we feel. We may not all agree, but that is ok.

I absolutely agree... Derek and A2K are making excellent points about why Isreal is taking the actions they are taking but, as far as Lebonese civilians who aren't involved you have to feel for them.

[Janice]

There is so much going on now, it is so hard to keep up with things. This is a great post and we will all learn a lot from it. At least, we will all be updated on all that is going on.

Who needs CNN when they have us.....

[Stratosphere747]

What is becoming apparent, at least IMO, is that someone *cough; Ahmadinejad* is willing for a war.

Truly a shame, but only a matter of time.

[cycloneye]

JERUSALEM (AP) -- Elite Iranian troops helped Hezbollah fire a sophisticated radar-guided missile at an Israeli warship, Israeli officials said Saturday, describing an apparent surprise blow by militants who had been using only low-tech weapons.

Iran denied that it had any troops in Lebanon.

Israel initially believed that an aerial drone armed with explosives hit the warship, but it became clear that Hezbollah had used an Iranian-made C-802 missile to strike the vessel late Friday, an Israeli intelligence official said on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the information.

Iran's embassy in Beirut issued a statement late Saturday that called the Israeli allegations "meaningless."


As I haved said at this thread,the U.S and Israel must give an ultimatum to Iran or else bomb those nuke plants.Forget the U.N who will take the Iran standoff next week as I posted at the Iran Nuclear Standoff thread.

[Janice]

Yes, Cycloneye. If everyone waits any longer, those nuke plants will be open for our terrorist enemies. Who know what Iran is passing to our enemies. The longer we wait, the more Iran can get away with.

[Regit]

JERUSALEM (AP) -- Elite Iranian troops helped Hezbollah fire a sophisticated radar-guided missile at an Israeli warship, Israeli officials said Saturday, describing an apparent surprise blow by militants who had been using only low-tech weapons.

Iran denied that it had any troops in Lebanon.

Israel initially believed that an aerial drone armed with explosives hit the warship, but it became clear that Hezbollah had used an Iranian-made C-802 missile to strike the vessel late Friday, an Israeli intelligence official said on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the information.

Iran's embassy in Beirut issued a statement late Saturday that called the Israeli allegations "meaningless."


As I haved said at this thread,the U.S and Israel must give an ultimatum to Iran or else bomb those nuke plants.Forget the U.N who will take the Iran standoff next week as I posted at the Iran Nuclear Standoff thread.

Can you explain why you think the US should be involved? I don't quite get why this is currently the US's problem.