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#3401 Postby Derek Ortt » Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:53 pm

if it was off, it usually says off instead of flag.

Maybe the raw T number decreased too quickly and triggered it automatically

However, the latest imagery shows increased symmetry and organization
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#3402 Postby Chacor » Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:01 pm

CONSIDERING THE COMBINED FORECAST UNCERTAINTIES IN THE
TRACK...INTENSITY...AND SIZE OF BERTHA...THERE IS ALREADY A 43%
CHANCE THAT BERMUDA WILL EXPERIENCE SUSTAINED WINDS OF TROPICAL
STORM FORCE DURING THE NEXT FIVE DAYS
...AS CONVEYED IN THE WIND
SPEED PROBABILITY PRODUCT ACCOMPANYING THIS ADVISORY PACKAGE.
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#3403 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:04 pm

Chacor wrote:
brunota2003 wrote:"Weakening Flag : ON"

Rut Ro Raggy! I think someone is about to fall apart again, if not slowly fading away already.


Any fall in the CI number will cause the weakening flag to trigger. It's not a good judge.

Edit:

It was also flagged for the potential of rapid dissipation.

"Rapid Dissipation Flag : FLAG"


Uhm, shouldn't that say "ON" if it was on, rather than "FLAG"?


If it says ON then the storm is self-destructing. That usually takes place in extreme shear.
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#3404 Postby Sanibel » Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:20 pm

West wobble is probably a bump as it hits the margin between the Highs.
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#3405 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:28 pm

Bertha continues to spike the ACE numbers for the 2008 season and for the individual stats.

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Season total
Storm Type ACE (104 kt2)
01L (Arthur) Operational 0.3675
02L (Bertha) Operational 11.4875
Total  11.855
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#3406 Postby jaxfladude » Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:53 pm

Anyone for few weeks lull after Bertha(2008) is history ?
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#3407 Postby Thunder44 » Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:25 pm

Latest satellite imagery shows some erosion of the the convection on the south and west quad. Some shear and dry air increasing again?
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#3408 Postby HurricaneHunter914 » Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:36 pm

I don't think shear is the problem. Shear is relatively low right now at around 10-15 kts.
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Probably dry air intrusion.
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#3409 Postby bob rulz » Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:19 am

HurricaneHunter914 wrote:I don't think shear is the problem. Shear is relatively low right now at around 10-15 kts.
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Probably dry air intrusion.


It would seem like that to me. There's a lot of dry air to its south and it looks like it's ingesting it to me.

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I'm fairly new to this so correct me if I'm wrong.
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#3410 Postby cheezyWXguy » Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:32 am

Is there an ERC going on in bertha right now? Her eye has contracted rapidly in the last few frames...anybody know the cause of it? Its not shear, and its not dry air, because convection has built back quite a bit
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#3411 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:34 am

cheezyWXguy wrote:Is there an ERC going on in bertha right now? Her eye has contracted rapidly in the last few frames...anybody know the cause of it? Its not shear, and its not dry air, because convection has built back quite a bit



Kind of looks like one to me.
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#3412 Postby cheezyWXguy » Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:37 am

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:
cheezyWXguy wrote:Is there an ERC going on in bertha right now? Her eye has contracted rapidly in the last few frames...anybody know the cause of it? Its not shear, and its not dry air, because convection has built back quite a bit



Kind of looks like one to me.

Do you or anyone else know where to find microwave data or something else that might show the cause of this?
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#3413 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:39 am

cheezyWXguy wrote:
Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:
cheezyWXguy wrote:Is there an ERC going on in bertha right now? Her eye has contracted rapidly in the last few frames...anybody know the cause of it? Its not shear, and its not dry air, because convection has built back quite a bit



Kind of looks like one to me.

Do you or anyone else know where to find microwave data or something else that might show the cause of this?



There is no current ones. But I've seen this before and it appears that the dry air is forcing a EWRC, also some of the older microwave data shown a "southern" outter band, I think its very possible.
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#3414 Postby HarlequinBoy » Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:42 am

Category 5 wrote:CrazyC83 hit it on the head, it gained it's intensity back.


Yeah he really did.
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#3415 Postby cheezyWXguy » Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:43 am

Dry air doesnt seem to be a problem anymore...it obviously was before, with a significant dent in the sw quadrant, but that has since filled in. Im inclined to believe its going to be a very quick erc or the eye will just re-expand.
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Central Atlantic

#3416 Postby SapphireSea » Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:47 am

It may be an ERC as the eye is trying warm and reform again. The storm's weakening is probobly due to being in a more stable atmosphere, and is probobly going to weaken a bit and more than likely hold steady in intensity for a day or two.
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#3417 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Jul 10, 2008 4:51 am

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Maybe an EWRC is occurring.
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#3418 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Jul 10, 2008 4:56 am

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First visible. Bertha's clouds getting closer to Bermuda.
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#3419 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Jul 10, 2008 5:17 am

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#3420 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Jul 10, 2008 5:23 am

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Not bad.
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