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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3581 Postby Kazmit » Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:37 pm

eastcoastFL wrote:So 18z HWRF comes in on the Texas LA border 929mb. Is that area heavily populated?

Interestingly, the coastline is sparsely populated but Beaumont, Lake Charles, and Lafayette slightly inland would be hit hard.

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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3582 Postby Nederlander » Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:39 pm

eastcoastFL wrote:So 18z HWRF comes in on the Texas LA border 929mb. Is that area heavily populated?

Yes, particularly on the TX side with Port Arthur, Beaumont, and Orange (Golden Triangle) and all of Mid-Jefferson County (Port Neches, Groves, Nederland).

I think about 350,000 in Jefferson and Orange Counties on the TX side.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3583 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:40 pm

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tarheelprogrammer wrote:Prediction: I believe Laura will peak at 170mph and 899mb. Just a feeling. Hope I am dead wrong. Good luck to those in the path.

I'm going with 915mb/145kt. If this thing somehow gets to near 900mb it would be at least 160kt. The strongest system in western Gulf was Allen at 909mb/155kt.


I am accounting for a large size with wind speeds.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3584 Postby eastcoastFL » Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:40 pm

Kazmit wrote:
eastcoastFL wrote:So 18z HWRF comes in on the Texas LA border 929mb. Is that area heavily populated?

Interestingly, the coastline is sparsely populated but Beaumont, Lake Charles, and Lafayette slightly inland would be hit hard.

https://i.imgur.com/yWmRWTT.png


Well as much as we don’t want to see this hit anyone that might be the best spot if it has to go somewhere


This is where it lands. Hopefully the people there get out tomorrow if that’s going to be landfall.


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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3585 Postby eastcoastFL » Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:41 pm

tarheelprogrammer wrote:
supercane4867 wrote:
tarheelprogrammer wrote:Prediction: I believe Laura will peak at 170mph and 899mb. Just a feeling. Hope I am dead wrong. Good luck to those in the path.

I'm going with 915mb/145kt. If this thing somehow gets to near 900mb it would be at least 160kt. The strongest system in western Gulf was Allen at 909mb/155kt.


I am accounting for a large size with wind speeds.


The NAM 3k has 890mb 170kt storm earlier
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3586 Postby Frank P » Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:42 pm

certainly looks north of the forecast line in this radar loop

https://www.sfwmd.gov/weather-radar/cur ... conditions
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3587 Postby Hurrilurker » Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:44 pm

If it's north of forecast doesn't isn't that potentially bad for New Orleans?
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3588 Postby Nederlander » Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:46 pm

Hurrilurker wrote:If it's north of forecast doesn't isn't that potentially bad for New Orleans?

It’ll be a long two days if we watch every wobble and stair step. :double: - No model guidance to suggest NOLA is in play
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3589 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:47 pm

The center is making quick work of cuba.. recon should be around when it emerges. which will be nice.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3590 Postby Nimbus » Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:47 pm

NDG wrote:I am really surprised the Cuban Gov't has been allowing the AF recons fly over their territory on the way to Laura since relationships have gone down again between our two governments.


The good old days scanning film of the Cuban missile sites for JFK and planning a response.
Laura is going to make "Seven Days In May" seem like a princess fairy tale.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3591 Postby bella_may » Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:48 pm

Frank P wrote:certainly looks north of the forecast line in this radar loop

https://www.sfwmd.gov/weather-radar/cur ... conditions

If that’s the center over Cuba then it looks well NE of the nhc track
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3592 Postby aspen » Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:50 pm

eastcoastFL wrote:
tarheelprogrammer wrote:
supercane4867 wrote:I'm going with 915mb/145kt. If this thing somehow gets to near 900mb it would be at least 160kt. The strongest system in western Gulf was Allen at 909mb/155kt.


I am accounting for a large size with wind speeds.


The NAM 3k has 890mb 170kt storm earlier

That might be a decent estimate of maximum potential intensity in that region assuming everything is absolutely perfect — wind shear, UL wind patterns, outflow, atmospheric moisture, and inner core structure. Since the core will have some work to do and could end up on the slightly larger side, I’m going to guess Laura’s maximum possible intensity is around 135-145 kt.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3593 Postby NDG » Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:50 pm

AF recon got there too late, nothing but southerly winds that it will find where they are estimating the CoC to be.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3594 Postby Frank P » Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:51 pm

Hurrilurker wrote:If it's north of forecast doesn't isn't that potentially bad for New Orleans?

maybe maybe not.. first would need RECON data to confirm... then we would need to input the data in the next round of model runs for their assessment... and it could only be just a temporary minor deviation and get back on course quickly ... so to tell if that single jump to the NW, if indeed it is verified, would not necessary make it any worse for NOLA but its something that central and SE LA would not feel very comfortable with IMO
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3595 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:52 pm

NDG wrote:AF recon got there too late, nothing but southerly winds that it will find where they are estimating the CoC to be.


if they fly around the west coast and back east.. by the time they get there.. center might be offshore..considering how quickly its crossing.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3596 Postby supercane4867 » Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:53 pm

Impressive blowup of hot towers into sunset.

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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3597 Postby tiger_deF » Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:57 pm

supercane4867 wrote:Impressive blowup of hot towers into sunset.

https://i.imgur.com/GgJX57Z.gif


Especially considering over a third of its "eyewall" right now are the mountains of Cuba
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3598 Postby eastcoastFL » Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:57 pm

supercane4867 wrote:Impressive blowup of hot towers into sunset.

https://i.imgur.com/GgJX57Z.gif


She tends to get really angry when land gets in her way
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3599 Postby NDG » Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:57 pm

LMAO


...NOAA AND AIR FORCE HURRICANE HUNTERS CURRENTLY INVESTIGATING LAURA... ...HEAVY RAINS AND FLASH FLOODING CONTINUES OVER WESTERN CUBA AND THE CAYMAN ISLANDS...
8:00 PM EDT Mon Aug 24
Location: 22.1°N 82.8°W
Moving: WNW at 20 mph
Min pressure: 998 mb
Max sustained: 65 mph
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3600 Postby aspen » Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:57 pm

NHC has upped Laura’s intensity to 55kt/998 mbar for the 8pm intermediate advisory.
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