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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3621 Postby Haris » Sat Jan 29, 2022 3:54 pm

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txtwister78 wrote:While we wait for the winter weather event, Monday continues to look active for parts of South Central and East TX (mainly east of I-35). Could see some much-needed rain and a few strong storms (especially across Houston metro).

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FKS7kUtVQAAhxwB?format=jpg&name=medium


The models have trended more south and southwest with Mondays system. Maybe more towards Victoria and Rockport now.


HRRR begs to differ
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3622 Postby Cpv17 » Sat Jan 29, 2022 3:55 pm

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txtwister78 wrote:While we wait for the winter weather event, Monday continues to look active for parts of South Central and East TX (mainly east of I-35). Could see some much-needed rain and a few strong storms (especially across Houston metro).

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FKS7kUtVQAAhxwB?format=jpg&name=medium


The models have trended more south and southwest with Mondays system. Maybe more towards Victoria and Rockport now.


Depends on the model but I think the WPC outlook handles that system well. CMC probably the outlier (further south) but GFS and Euro on track


Yeah I saw that the Euro and GFS have it where the SPC have it but the mesoscale models have it further southwest.

Edit never mind now it looks to be more back towards my area lol
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3623 Postby Cpv17 » Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:00 pm

Haris wrote:
Cpv17 wrote:
txtwister78 wrote:While we wait for the winter weather event, Monday continues to look active for parts of South Central and East TX (mainly east of I-35). Could see some much-needed rain and a few strong storms (especially across Houston metro).

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FKS7kUtVQAAhxwB?format=jpg&name=medium


The models have trended more south and southwest with Mondays system. Maybe more towards Victoria and Rockport now.


HRRR begs to differ


Yeah some of the earlier models I looked at had it going more southwest but now looks like they shifted back.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3624 Postby txtwister78 » Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:00 pm

bubba hotep wrote:
txtwister78 wrote:While we wait for the winter weather event, Monday continues to look active for parts of South Central and East TX (mainly east of I-35). Could see some much-needed rain and a few strong storms (especially across Houston metro).

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FKS7kUtVQAAhxwB?format=jpg&name=medium


I mentioned that a few days ago. It seems like a lot of big winter wx systems over the years have had sneaky little svr wx events that no one tracked.


Yup. I've seen that before although typically from my recollection those are bigger/more widespread events that alter jet/pattern that can lead to arctic air intrusions. I think there has been some papers/discussion on that but I can't remember where I read it.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3625 Postby gpsnowman » Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:21 pm

Steve McCauley is on board the winter weather train for next week!!
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3626 Postby Brent » Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:34 pm

gpsnowman wrote:Steve McCauley is on board the winter weather train for next week!!


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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3627 Postby Texas Snow » Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:37 pm

Brent wrote:
gpsnowman wrote:Steve McCauley is on board the winter weather train for next week!!


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I’ve been eagerly waiting his opinion as my final major datapoint to either reinforce what we already believed or to find something we’ve missed. Wow.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3628 Postby rwfromkansas » Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:42 pm

IWeathernet is getting close as well, so confidence is higher than normal at this range with Steve and Evan all in.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3629 Postby Quixotic » Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:47 pm

Looking good so far. Grocery run tomorrow.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3630 Postby Iceresistance » Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:49 pm

18z ICON has trended further SE with the snow, waiting for the final verdict for the Winter Precip type for DFW
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3631 Postby Brent » Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:53 pm

Iceresistance wrote:18z ICON has trended further SE with the snow, waiting for the final verdict for the Winter Precip type for DFW


:eek: :froze: :double: it's still snowing when the run ends NW of DFW and most of Oklahoma

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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3632 Postby txtwister78 » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:10 pm

Just keeps getting better (or worse) depending on how you look at this event.

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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3633 Postby Brent » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:11 pm

One word... Wow this is Thursday afternoon :double:

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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3634 Postby bubba hotep » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:17 pm

Brent wrote:One word... Wow this is Thursday afternoon :double:

https://i.ibb.co/8K71xsf/gfs-mslp-pcpn-frzn-scus-20.png


Looking at soundings and adjusting surface temp lower to account for bias, there is going to be widespread thunder freezing rain or sleet. We could even see svr warned thunder sleet storms!!
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3635 Postby Brent » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:18 pm

Over a foot for OKC and Tulsa :spam: :double:

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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3636 Postby orangeblood » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:19 pm

bubba hotep wrote:
Brent wrote:One word... Wow this is Thursday afternoon :double:

https://i.ibb.co/8K71xsf/gfs-mslp-pcpn-frzn-scus-20.png


Looking at soundings and adjusting surface temp lower to account for bias, there is going to be widespread thunder freezing rain or sleet. We could even see svr warned thunder sleet storms!!


both GFS and Euro going negative tilt, Crippling Ice Storm…no bueno! This looks more extreme than December 2013 for DFW

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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3637 Postby Ntxw » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:24 pm

orangeblood wrote:
bubba hotep wrote:
Brent wrote:One word... Wow this is Thursday afternoon :double:

https://i.ibb.co/8K71xsf/gfs-mslp-pcpn-frzn-scus-20.png


Looking at soundings and adjusting surface temp lower to account for bias, there is going to be widespread thunder freezing rain or sleet. We could even see svr warned thunder sleet storms!!


both GFS and Euro going negative tilt, Crippling Ice Storm…no bueno! This looks more extreme than December 2013 for DFW

https://images.weatherbell.com/model/gfs-deterministic/tx/frzr_total/1643479200/1644030000-hZFLdSq1bWo.png


From the coarse globals. Can't wait to see the Hi Res guidance. This is the big one writing on the wall all over it. Thunderstorms overriding frigid cold.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3638 Postby Iceresistance » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:27 pm

DFW still has a nasty Ice Storm from 18z ICON, but the Warm Nose is getting weaker. I hope that's the case when it comes.

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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3639 Postby Iceresistance » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:28 pm

18z GFS has a secondary system not long after the big storm, 12z GEFS had some members do that.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3640 Postby Cerlin » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:29 pm

The 18z GFS trended deeper with the trough, the warm nose is much weaker over Norman and OKC. I’d guess snow ratios will be closer to 8:1 with the GFS solution but it arguably makes the frozen rain situation worse for DFW which is not good. I have a hard time believing south Oklahoma will see 5 inches of sleet. Image
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