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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3641 Postby Highteeld » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:26 pm

It's stair stepping. Took a jog E of its previous motion, now it seems to be correcting over land and heading dead west. the mean storm motion remains mostly unchanged as I see it
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3642 Postby EquusStorm » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:27 pm

I think we're about to see what Fay could have done had she not insisted on staying on land for 90% of the track; seems kinda like a cousin.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3643 Postby cfisher » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:27 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:Seeing a jump to the north coast is a distinct possibility as that convective burst moves over water.

I doubt there's enough low level vorticity to support it
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3644 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:29 pm

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Always good to see how Dvorak is doing with recon in the system. So far it's doing pretty good.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3645 Postby eastcoastFL » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:31 pm

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eastcoastFL wrote:So 18z HWRF comes in on the Texas LA border 929mb. Is that area heavily populated?


400k in the Triangle, 225k in Lake Charles. (Beaumont, Port Arthur, Orange, Lake Charles/Sulphur are the main cities).


Would you say its a fairly low lying area? Do they have construction code in LA like here in S.Fl where they build homes with cement block mostly?
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3647 Postby eastcoastFL » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:34 pm

Snowman67 wrote:The 8PM EST Advisory still shows this a TC at 2PM EST tomorrow. I thought that they would have had it as a hurricane by then. I know it has to go over another strip of land in Cuba, but won't be surprised if she's a hurricane prior to then.


I'm not sure if they update that on intermediate advisories but I could be wrong. At 11pm it might be different.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3648 Postby Nederlander » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:34 pm


I don’t think it’ll take until midnight tbh.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3649 Postby Highteeld » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:35 pm

Wouldn't surprise me if Laura emerges over water faster than the models are predicting. the llc may edge southward to where the most convection is thereafter. things get fun from there.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3651 Postby Highteeld » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:36 pm

any hi-res topo maps of cuba?
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3652 Postby Blinhart » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:36 pm

eastcoastFL wrote:
Steve wrote:
eastcoastFL wrote:So 18z HWRF comes in on the Texas LA border 929mb. Is that area heavily populated?


400k in the Triangle, 225k in Lake Charles. (Beaumont, Port Arthur, Orange, Lake Charles/Sulphur are the main cities).


Would you say its a fairly low lying area? Do they have construction code in LA like here in S.Fl where they build homes with cement block mostly?


Most of the homes south of Lake Charles that survived Ike and Rita, are not made of cement, I think there isn't that many made of cement, the building codes were not updated like in Florida after Andrew. So the only code that was updated was the elevation of the homes, all homes south of Intracoastal Waterway are either on stilts or built up mounds of earth. A lot of insurance companies will not even insure homes south of Hwy 90. And all the land south of I-10 is low lying, I'm 30 miles from the coast line as the crow flies and only 22 or so feet above sea level. A lot of the area south of the Intracoastal is marsh land. There are natural water breaks (earth mounds) through out the areas between the coast and I-10
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3653 Postby PavelGaborik10 » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:36 pm

Lord she already appears to be over halfway through that strip of Cuba.

Things are about to get very, very interesting.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3654 Postby BYG Jacob » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:36 pm


Just developing an eyewall over Cuba, no biggie
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3655 Postby ThetaE » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:36 pm

Three cheers for science-driven diplomacy! I always thought recon avoided land fixes for safety reasons; didn't realize it was geopolitical.

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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3656 Postby cfisher » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:38 pm

The burst of convection to the northeast should help jumpstart northward polar outflow
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3657 Postby tropicwatch » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:39 pm

Didn't see if it was already mentioned but this is the first time I recall HH being able to over fly Cuba and they even seem to be taking readings. Pretty wild :cheesy:
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3659 Postby Blinhart » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:40 pm



Looks like she is about to splash-down in the next hour or so.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3660 Postby Highteeld » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:41 pm

BYG Jacob wrote:

Just developing an eyewall over Cuba, no biggie

Taking a stab in the dark here, but it would seem laura's eye made landfall just west of the highest terrain over western Cuba. This to me seems like it would add a frictional component that could tighten the circulation from the east side of the eyewall. it looks tighter on radar, which could mean less time needed to spin up over the gulf. gahhh, i don't know
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