ATL OMAR: Remnant Low - Discussion

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#381 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:50 pm

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#382 Postby Chacor » Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:51 pm

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Very impressive cloud tops more normally seen in the WPac.
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#383 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:07 pm

HURAKAN wrote:Image

Omar is not stopping.



Hmmmm, prawns....
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#384 Postby Category 5 » Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:21 pm

Ed Mahmoud wrote:
HURAKAN wrote:
Omar is not stopping.



Hmmmm, prawns....


Are you drinking again? :lol:

Nasty nasty convection on this storm. In fact, more impressive then Wilma by quite a bit.
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#385 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:25 pm

Category 5 wrote:
Ed Mahmoud wrote:
HURAKAN wrote:Omar is not stopping.



Hmmmm, prawns....


Are you drinking again? :lol:

Nasty nasty convection on this storm.


If this were Saturday night, maybe, but I get up in about 7 hours. I'm hoping for an invite to a co-worker's house with big screen/hi-def for the Missouri game, so I shan't be on S2K much that night, when I am drinking.

With all the sub -80ºC convection still firing, I would not be surprised to see this almost a major when aircraft is in it in a few hours.
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Re: ATL OMAR: Hurricane - Discussion

#386 Postby Sanibel » Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:54 pm

BVIgal:

Models miss you to east but get ready. St Croix should get an experience from this if it does what it looks like it is doing. But slight track shift left could bring you significant cyclone.
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Re: ATL OMAR: Hurricane - Discussion

#387 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:03 pm

Based on modelling and impressive satellite appearance, Cat 3 during its closest approach to Puerto Rico and then the VIs/St Martin doesn't seem impossible. In my amateur and unofficial opinion. After about 48 hours, I'd think lower heat content and increasing shear will stop and then reverse intensification.

Unofficially.

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ETA: Official NHC probability table doesn't see much chance for a Cat 5

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Re: ATL OMAR: Hurricane - Discussion

#388 Postby bvigal » Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:15 pm

Sanibel wrote:BVIgal:

Models miss you to east but get ready. St Croix should get an experience from this if it does what it looks like it is doing. But slight track shift left could bring you significant cyclone.

That sounds great!!! What models?
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Re: ATL OMAR: Hurricane - Discussion

#389 Postby Sanibel » Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:23 pm

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#390 Postby msbee » Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:06 am

I have a question. On its current track, it is supposed to pass maybe 55 -60 miles from us.
I know it can wobble and maybe come closer.
but on the current track, I am wondering what St. Maarten can expect in terms of wind.
How far out from the center do hurricane force winds extend?

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#391 Postby bvigal » Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:14 am

msbee wrote:I have a question. On its current track, it is supposed to pass maybe 55 -60 miles from us.
I know it can wobble and maybe come closer.
but on the current track, I am wondering what St. Maarten can expect in terms of wind.
How far out from the center do hurricane force winds extend?

Barbara

Hi Barbara!
Can't sleep either, huh? ;-)
Try this link, http://www.nlmoc.navy.mil/cgi-bin/viewtext.pl?File=/center/Tropical/wtnt02 to get the specific quadrant information for each forecast point.

PS - on my Google Earth with 11pm forecast points, track path nearest point to west end of St. Martin is 46 nautical miles.
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Re: ATL OMAR: Hurricane - Discussion

#392 Postby msbee » Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:20 am

good morning
it is morning isn't it?
yea, I can't sleep either :-)
thanks for the link
I'll check it out
46 NM is too darn close.
no one ere has boarded up or anything. what a crazy morning ti's gonna be
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Re: ATL OMAR: Hurricane - Discussion

#393 Postby msbee » Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:24 am

OK, so let's see. so if it passes 46 NM from us, then we can expect to see somewhere between 50-64KT winds..according to that link.
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Re: ATL OMAR: Hurricane - Discussion

#394 Postby bvigal » Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:55 am

msbee wrote:OK, so let's see. so if it passes 46 NM from us, then we can expect to see somewhere between 50-64KT winds..according to that link.

36 HRS, VALID AT:
161200Z --- 19.1N 63.3W
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 090 KT, GUSTS 110 KT
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 030 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
030 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
020 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
020 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 050 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
060 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
040 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
030 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
Yes. The way I read it, closer to 50kt. Those are maximums.

However, I think it's much more important that you are under a hurricane warning. That means the experts say that you may experience hurricane conditions. These plotted points and quadrants are a guideline. Outer bands have been known to produce brief periods of much stronger winds than quandrant forecasts might indicate for a given point. From a warning/preparedness standpoint, that is the safest way to approach it.
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#395 Postby Cyclenall » Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:58 am

Man alive, Omar looks to want to renew it's title from the Wpac for the Atlantic! From my perspective, it looks like a classic October monster in the making, very large hurricane that could just explode. It would not shock me to find a major hurricane tomorrow afternoon. Early this morning, I just had a feeling by the way it was rotating and that deep convection that RI was certainly in the cards for Omar. The flood threat will be very high for the islands since they have been soaked from Kyle and other systems.

I do have to post this though, it does remind me of Wilma's early evolution.
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Re: ATL OMAR: Hurricane - Discussion

#396 Postby bvigal » Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:04 am

Really anxious to see the first sat pics in 3 hrs. Here's one now!
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#397 Postby TheEuropean » Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:19 am

15/0545 UTC 14.6N 68.1W T4.5/4.5 OMAR -- Atlantic Ocean
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Re: ATL OMAR: Hurricane - Discussion

#398 Postby caribepr » Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:40 am

bvigal wrote:Really anxious to see the first sat pics in 3 hrs. Here's one now!
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Still awake ladies? I fell out sometime before 11, glad I did because I'm sure awake now. It is dead calm here. What are your conditions?
Since no one seems to be awake I'll edit this to add...does anyone expect any increase in speed? The timing of *landfall* (used loosely, we're sort of ducks on pond here) on this seems to be getting slower and slower (stronger and stronger)?
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Re: ATL OMAR: Hurricane - Discussion

#399 Postby cycloneye » Wed Oct 15, 2008 6:03 am

Long range from San Juan radar captures eye.

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#400 Postby O Town » Wed Oct 15, 2008 6:09 am

Wow I don't think we saw these dark greys on IR in most of our storms this year, or at least not like this. Lots of convection with Mr. Omar.

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