Pete Rose admits he gambled on baseball games

[mf_dolphin]

I believe he should be allowed in the Hall of Fame. His performance on the field demands that. As far as the betting and lying goes, he makes a valid point about the equity of the drugs versus gambpling punishment. What he did was wrong but 14 years is enough punichment IMO.

[stormy]

when i was little i met pete rose , i went to a boarding school in covington. Ky. a friend of mind whose dad was the sports writer for the Reds, his name was Lawson (sp), her name was nina. we would sit in the dug out during some of the games. He was really nice and called her little scoop. he signed a banner one time for me. i still have it. he was real quiet , and didnt smile alot, but he was nice.
i also believe he belongs in the Hall of Fame. but again this is just my 2 cents worth.

[rainstorm]

The 14-year-old lie




Pete Rose has finally come clean — or so he says. In interviews and in his soon-to-be-released autobiography, Rose concedes that he was a big-time gambler while manager of the Cincinnati Reds, but that he never bet against his own team. Rose also said he regrets lying all those years.
Notwithstanding the fact that confessions are good for the soul, Rose is hoping his admission of guilt will be good toward his chances of being reinstated, so that his name can appear on the 2005 Hall of Fame ballot. We hope otherwise.
Major League Baseball first began its investigation of Rose's gambling in 1989. Rose vehemently denied the allegations and said the bookies and runners accusing him were liars. In 1990, facing reams of evidence that he bet not only on other major sports, but also on baseball and his own ballclub, Rose agreed to the lifetime ban by signing an agreement that placed his name alongside others who were "permanently ineligible." His denials about betting on baseball remained adamant until November 2002, when he met with Baseball Commissioner Bud Selig. "Yes, sir, I did bet on baseball," Rose says he told Selig.
The news in this latest segment of the Sorry Pete Saga is not that he bet on baseball or that he bet on the Reds — that news first surfaced as evidence during the league's investigation. The news is that Peter Edward Rose is publicly mouthing the words himself for the first time because his book comes out on Thursday. Moreover, there is another sorry excuse for his public confessions: 2005 is the last chance for Rose's name to appear on the writers' Hall of Fame ballot.
Unlike the rapists, drug abusers and wife beaters with which major sports is grappling, Rose did not break the law. Nonetheless, he deserves the Hall of Shame instead of Hall of Fame for what he did — jeopardize the integrity of baseball in general and his team in particular. That is why, coupled with his own acceptance of the most severe punishment, his 14-year-old lie means that Pete Rose should be banned for life.

[Miss Mary]

rainstorm - why don't you tell Storm2K how you REALLY feel about Pete Rose?

I'm not a Pete fan, read my earlier post in this thread.

I wish he had come clean from the get-go.

In light of the fact that Chad asked for opinions on Pete Rose's sudden confession and moved this to the Off Topic Forum, I decided to edit this post. Don't want to stir up more debate than what's already here on this topic.

Mary

[rainstorm]

heres a question? pete admitted he bet on the reds to win. what about the games that he didnt bet on the reds to win. was he throwing those games?
espn just did a piece showing how many people pete called liars over the years by saying he didnt bet on baseball. too funny!! he is "confessing" to increase book sales, not because he is sorry

[mf_dolphin]

I guess I don't understand where some people draw the line. What Pete Rose did was very wrong but he didn't break the law. Where is the outrage for all the athlete's who set records while using illegal steroids? Should their records be expunged and them banned from their respective Hall's of Fame? Let's be consistent.

[coriolis]

Isn't there another way to get in besides the writers? Here's a middle ground. He should not be eligible during his lifetime. That way he won't be able to bask in the glory, but after he's deceased the opportunity would be there if the hall of fame sees fit.

[cycloneye]

First it will be the commisioners decision Bud Selig to determine if he is reinstated to baseball and if he says yes then the writers are the ones who will decide to put Pete in the ballot for this years class of 2004 hall of famers and also in 2005 but if in those 2 years they dont select him then the veterans people in 3 years will decide if he will be in the ballot in 2007 so as you can see it will be a very long time after Selig says yes to reintallment as the waiting for Pete Rose will be long but let's see first what the boss of MLB says.

[vbhoutex]

PETE ROSE WAS AN AWESOME BASEBALL PLAYER!!!! NO ONE CAN DENY THAT!!

HE SCREWED UP ROYALLY!!! NO ONE CAN DENY THAT!!!

WHO ARE WE TO JUDGE?

Has he paid his dues? Is he sincere? Does it matter? That is all between him and our maker. I do have some opinions about this, but for now they will remain private. Making a point here.