TS Franklin Recon=Next Mission starts at 9:00z

Website · #41 Postby **Brent** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 3:27 pm

wxwatcher91 wrote:ya any talk about this being a TS at 5pm should stop cuz according to recon we have here what? 25mph at surface?

They aren't in the storm yet...

#42 Postby **P.K.** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 3:29 pm

URNT11 KNHC 211956
97779 19464 50252 77800 14900 06019 18142 /2559
40515
RMK AF307 01EEA INVEST OB 06

clfenwi · #43 Postby **clfenwi** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 3:30 pm

URNT11 KNHC 211956
97779 19464 50252 77800 14900 06019 18142 /2559
40515
RMK AF307 01EEA INVEST OB 06

Time: 1946Z
Position: 25.2 North 77.8 West
Pressure level: 1490 meters (850 mb level, IIRC)
Flight level winds 19 knots/060
Temperature 18.C
Dewpoint: 14C
850 millibar height: 1559 meters

wxwatcher91 · #44 Postby **wxwatcher91** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 3:36 pm

Brent wrote:
wxwatcher91 wrote:ya any talk about this being a TS at 5pm should stop cuz according to recon we have here what? 25mph at surface?

They aren't in the storm yet...

really??? the wind reports showed a clear incline and the decline like they passed through the center... it must of just been a thunderstorm... lol

clfenwi · #45 Postby **clfenwi** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 3:36 pm

2020 2508N 07555W 01494 0086 004 007 166 158 009 01616 0000000000
2020. 2509N 07554W 01493 0086 011 006 168 160 006 01615 0000000000
2021 2509N 07552W 01492 0083 002 005 162 162 006 01612 0000000000
2021. 2510N 07550W 01494 0083 348 005 160 158 006 01613 0000000000
2022 2510N 07548W 01492 0082 329 008 164 148 009 01611 0000000000
2022. 2511N 07547W 01492 0083 327 010 160 146 012 01611 0000000000
2023 2511N 07545W 01493 0083 330 012 160 146 012 01611 0000000000
2023. 2512N 07543W 01494 0081 328 012 160 152 013 01611 0000000000
2024 2512N 07541W 01492 0080 333 013 156 148 013 01608 0000000000
2024. 2513N 07540W 01493 0079 336 013 154 154 015 01608 0000000000
2025 2513N 07538W 01492 0077 340 015 156 156 016 01606 0000000000
2025. 2513N 07536W 01495 0076 341 018 158 158 020 01607 0000000000
2026 2514N 07534W 01491 0073 330 018 158 156 019 01600 0000000000
2026. 2515N 07533W 01494 0070 328 018 160 156 018 01600 0000000000
2027 2515N 07531W 01493 0067 324 017 160 156 019 01596 0000000000
2027. 2516N 07530W 01492 0063 323 017 164 152 019 01592 0000000000
2028 2517N 07528W 01493 0059 339 011 164 160 013 01589 0000000000
2028. 2518N 07526W 01494 0056 004 007 168 162 008 01585 0000000000
2029 2518N 07525W 01493 0051 022 005 176 160 006 01580 0000000000
2029. 2518N 07523W 01493 0047 161 005 174 166 008 01576 0000000000

not much in way of winds... also radar altiude is higher than pressure altitude...

although, checking against a current estimate position (from http://weather.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/post-goes ) I don't think they have reached the center yet...

Matt-hurricanewatcher · #46 Postby **Matt-hurricanewatcher** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 3:36 pm

Hopefully they have the vortex by 5pm.

kevin · #47 Postby **kevin** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 3:43 pm

wxwatcher91 wrote:
Brent wrote:
wxwatcher91 wrote:ya any talk about this being a TS at 5pm should stop cuz according to recon we have here what? 25mph at surface?

They aren't in the storm yet...

really??? the wind reports showed a clear incline and the decline like they passed through the center... it must of just been a thunderstorm... lol

winds vary and are _not_ used to determine the center. Pressure is.

gkrangers · #48 Postby **gkrangers** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 3:43 pm

2030 2518N 07521W 01490 0048 186 019 170 170 026 01574 0000000000
2030. 2518N 07520W 01493 0052 200 026 154 154 028 01581 0000000000
2031 2516N 07519W 01495 0058 207 027 140 140 028 01588 0000000000
2031. 2515N 07517W 01491 0064 211 033 138 138 033 01592 0000000000
2032 2514N 07516W 01495 0070 210 030 142 142 030 01601 0000000000
2032. 2513N 07515W 01490 0073 208 032 146 146 033 01600 0000000000
2033 2512N 07514W 01496 0075 212 033 150 150 033 01607 0000000000
2033. 2511N 07513W 01492 0077 218 036 152 152 036 01605 0000000000
2034 2510N 07512W 01494 0080 219 035 150 150 036 01610 0000000000
2034. 2508N 07510W 01493 0082 215 033 154 154 033 01611 0000000000
2035 2507N 07509W 01493 0085 213 031 156 152 031 01614 0000000000
2035. 2506N 07508W 01493 0086 209 029 156 150 029 01616 0000000000
2036 2505N 07507W 01493 0088 210 028 158 146 028 01618 0000000000
2036. 2504N 07506W 01492 0090 209 026 158 152 027 01619 0000000000
2037 2503N 07505W 01493 0091 203 027 160 156 027 01620 0000000000
2037. 2502N 07503W 01494 0091 207 027 160 156 028 01622 0000000000
2038 2500N 07502W 01493 0093 209 028 160 154 029 01622 0000000000
2038. 2459N 07501W 01493 0094 208 030 162 142 030 01623 0000000000
2039 2458N 07500W 01494 0094 211 030 162 152 030 01624 0000000000
2039. 2457N 07459W 01492 0095 209 030 160 156 030 01622 0000000000

#49 Postby **drezee** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 3:44 pm

gkrangers wrote:2030 2518N 07521W 01490 0048 186 019 170 170 026 01574 0000000000
2030. 2518N 07520W 01493 0052 200 026 154 154 028 01581 0000000000
2031 2516N 07519W 01495 0058 207 027 140 140 028 01588 0000000000
2031. 2515N 07517W 01491 0064 211 033 138 138 033 01592 0000000000
2032 2514N 07516W 01495 0070 210 030 142 142 030 01601 0000000000
2032. 2513N 07515W 01490 0073 208 032 146 146 033 01600 0000000000
2033 2512N 07514W 01496 0075 212 033 150 150 033 01607 0000000000
2033. 2511N 07513W 01492 0077 218 036 152 152 036 01605 0000000000
2034 2510N 07512W 01494 0080 219 035 150 150 036 01610 0000000000
2034. 2508N 07510W 01493 0082 215 033 154 154 033 01611 0000000000
2035 2507N 07509W 01493 0085 213 031 156 152 031 01614 0000000000
2035. 2506N 07508W 01493 0086 209 029 156 150 029 01616 0000000000
2036 2505N 07507W 01493 0088 210 028 158 146 028 01618 0000000000
2036. 2504N 07506W 01492 0090 209 026 158 152 027 01619 0000000000
2037 2503N 07505W 01493 0091 203 027 160 156 027 01620 0000000000
2037. 2502N 07503W 01494 0091 207 027 160 156 028 01622 0000000000
2038 2500N 07502W 01493 0093 209 028 160 154 029 01622 0000000000
2038. 2459N 07501W 01493 0094 208 030 162 142 030 01623 0000000000
2039 2458N 07500W 01494 0094 211 030 162 152 030 01624 0000000000
2039. 2457N 07459W 01492 0095 209 030 160 156 030 01622 0000000000

more importantly SSW winds

clfenwi · #50 Postby **clfenwi** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 3:55 pm

2040 2456N 07458W 01494 0096 204 029 162 156 029 01626 0000000000
2040. 2455N 07456W 01494 0096 205 028 168 152 029 01626 0000000000
2041 2453N 07455W 01493 0096 207 029 166 154 030 01625 0000000000
2041. 2453N 07454W 01495 0100 200 029 168 154 030 01631 0000000000
2042 2453N 07452W 01494 0099 196 028 166 158 029 01629 0000000000
2042. 2455N 07452W 01490 0096 194 028 164 158 029 01622 0000000000
2043 2457N 07452W 01495 0097 194 029 160 158 029 01628 0000000000
2043. 2459N 07452W 01493 0097 195 029 160 158 030 01626 0000000000
2044 2501N 07452W 01492 0097 194 029 160 158 030 01625 0000000000
2044. 2503N 07452W 01494 0097 190 031 158 158 031 01626 0000000000
2045 2505N 07452W 01493 0096 189 032 156 156 032 01625 0000000000
2045. 2507N 07452W 01493 0097 188 032 156 156 033 01626 0000000000
2046 2509N 07451W 01493 0097 187 032 156 156 033 01626 0000000000
2046. 2511N 07451W 01493 0097 187 033 156 156 033 01626 0000000000
2047 2512N 07451W 01494 0097 186 032 154 154 033 016270000000000
2047. 2514N 07451W 01492 0097 187 031 152 152 031 01626 0000000000
2048 2516N 07451W 01493 0096 188 032 154 152 032 01626 0000000000
2048. 2518N 07451W 01492 0098 185 032 150 148 034 01627 0000000000
2049 2520N 07450W 01494 0097 189 033 150 150 034 01627 0000000000
2049. 2521N 07449W 01496 0096 186 033 138 138 034 01627 0000000000

working their way north...

#51 Postby **drezee** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 3:57 pm

clfenwi wrote:working their way north...

This signifies that they are no longer looking for the W wind, but want to know how strong it is...

Thunder44 · #52 Postby **Thunder44** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 3:59 pm

They have the ship report to tell them it's already a TS.

#53 Postby **HurricaneQueen** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 4:00 pm

From Vis satellite it certainly appears to have an eye!

#54 Postby **Lowpressure** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 4:01 pm

Thunder44 wrote:They have the ship report to tell them it's already a TS.

Ship report may support wind speed criteria, but can not confirm closed LLC. It takes multiple obs to prove that, or recon.

gkrangers · #55 Postby **gkrangers** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 4:02 pm

2050 2523N 07448W 01490 0094 179 035 136 136 039 01620 0000000000
2050. 2524N 07447W 01493 0095 170 032 134 134 037 01624 0000000000
2051 2526N 07446W 01493 0095 171 027 140 140 029 01625 0000000000
2051. 2528N 07445W 01496 0096 169 034 144 144 038 01627 0000000000
2052 2529N 07444W 01491 0095 161 040 136 136 042 01622 0000000000
2052. 2531N 07443W 01492 0097 158 037 142 142 038 01626 0000000000
2053 2533N 07443W 01408 0095 160 039 142 142 040 01539 0000000000
2053. 2535N 07442W 01107 0089 158 038 170 170 040 01224 0000000000
2054 2537N 07441W 00794 0070 157 040 188 188 041 00885 0000000000
2054. 2539N 07442W 00532 0049 145 039 204 204 040 00602 0000000000
2055 2540N 07443W 00412 0039 145 037 214 214 038 00470 0000000000
2055. 2542N 07444W 00290 0035 138 036 224 224 037 00339 0000000000
2056 2544N 07445W 00276 0033 134 036 226 226 036 00322 0000000000
2056. 2545N 07445W 00272 0032 133 036 228 228 037 00318 0000000000
2057 2547N 07446W 00274 0032 132 035 226 226 036 00319 0000000000
2057. 2548N 07447W 00274 0032 133 034 226 226 035 00320 0000000000
2058 2550N 07448W 00274 0032 130 033 226 226 033 00319 0000000000
2058. 2552N 07449W 00275 0032 133 036 228 228 038 00321 0000000000
2059 2553N 07450W 00273 0033 131 034 230 228 035 00319 0000000000
2059. 2555N 07451W 00274 0032 133 036 230 224 039 00320 0000000000

#56 Postby **Lowpressure** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 4:03 pm

HurricaneQueen wrote:From Vis satellite it certainly appears to have an eye!

What ever it is, it is not going away. It appears to be very near the center.

Matt-hurricanewatcher · #57 Postby **Matt-hurricanewatcher** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 4:03 pm

They have for a fact made tropical storms/depression from one or two ship reports.

Thunder44 · #58 Postby **Thunder44** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 4:03 pm

Lowpressure wrote:
Thunder44 wrote:They have the ship report to tell them it's already a TS.

Ship report may support wind speed criteria, but can not confirm closed LLC. It takes multiple obs to prove that, or recon.

They found SW winds already.

#59 Postby **drezee** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 4:10 pm

Thunder44 wrote:
Lowpressure wrote:
Thunder44 wrote:They have the ship report to tell them it's already a TS.

Ship report may support wind speed criteria, but can not confirm closed LLC. It takes multiple obs to prove that, or recon.

They found SW winds already.

Come on, you must know the game by now…classify it as a TD and forecast it to strengthen into a TS. It called self-verification….

eye of the storm · #60 Postby **eye of the storm** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 4:10 pm

NRL has the storm listed as 06L.noname so I think we have at least a depression here.
http://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/tc-bin/tc_ho ... s&DISPLAY=

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