Blanco just said

Discuss the recovery and aftermath of landfalling hurricanes. Please be sensitive to those that have been directly impacted. Political threads will be deleted without notice. This is the place to come together not divide.

Moderator: S2k Moderators

Message
Author
User avatar
feederband
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 3423
Joined: Wed Oct 01, 2003 6:21 pm
Location: Lakeland Fl

#41 Postby feederband » Thu Sep 08, 2005 8:59 pm

azsnowman wrote:I spent 2 years aboard the USS AMERICA CV66 back in the mid to late '70's, I could not BELIEVE ALL the STUFF that was tossed overboard while we were in the Gulf!! We would toss everything from GALLONS of battery acid, old batteries (24 volt), to HUNDREDS of gallons of hydraulic fluids, you name the toxins, WE dumped it!!

Dennis


I was on cv-62 when you hit the 50 mile mark everything went over including medical waste..I would hate to fall over board and end up in the chum line we had going....
0 likes   

User avatar
BayouVenteux
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 775
Age: 63
Joined: Thu Sep 04, 2003 3:26 pm
Location: Ascension Parish, Louisiana (30.3 N 91.0 W)

#42 Postby BayouVenteux » Thu Sep 08, 2005 9:02 pm

arcticfire wrote:
Here is an idea just off the top of my head, you have a big flowing body of water to use to help dilute the toxins. Run a pipe from the mississippi river and use it to dilute the water they are pumping out. Thats just one option. Regardless the kneejerk reaction of pumping water so toxic you dont' want people to even come in contact with it into a lake is just compounding the problem. So now instead of a polluted puddle held in by levee's , you are gonna have an entire tidal lake polluted slowly leaking the toxins into the ocean.

Idealy people would wise up abandon NOLA. Then there would be many options on what to do with the toxic puddle since you wouldn't be looking to make sure people can move back in a couple months.


Actually, in a general sense, your idea's already under consideration locally by some folks. The "pipe" already exists in the form of the Bonnet Carre Spillway, a control structure and diversion channel constructed on the southwest side of Lake Pontchartrain. Normally its purpose is to control the level of the Mississippi River above New Orleans during periods of high water. But in this case, once winter rains and snows come, the currently low river levels will begin to rise and if high enough, could possibly provide a much needed clean, fresh inflow (relatively speaking) if the spillway gates are opened and river water allowed to enter the lake.

While not 100% certain to solve the problem, it's one hopeful possibility. And right now we'll take all the hopeful possibilities we can find down here.
0 likes   
Andrew '92, Katrina '05, Gustav '08, Isaac '12, Ida '21...and countless other lesser landfalling storms whose names have been eclipsed by "The Big Ones".

shaggy
Category 2
Category 2
Posts: 655
Joined: Fri Jul 22, 2005 4:14 pm
Location: greenville, n.c.

#43 Postby shaggy » Fri Sep 09, 2005 9:25 am

huricanwatcher wrote:
lsu2001 wrote:
huricanwatcher wrote:
Cookiely wrote:
mf_dolphin wrote:Unbelievable! I guess the CDC doesn't count much to her.....

Who needs the CDC or anyone else to tell us the flood water is contaminated. Bodies, animals, sewage, garbage, gasoline, oil, contamination from transformers, propane, and something my mother and I mentioned today (All the houshold cleaners and pesticides in our homes). Now maybe Blanco meant the drinking water and not the flood waters. There was a resident who said she had water in her taps, and electricity was soon to be turned on and she was in the mandatory evacuation area of New Orleans and didn't want to evacuate. Anyone know where New Orleans gets the drinking water from? What does the flood water and contamination do to the aquifer?


And all the imports laying in storage at port... god only knows what was stored there and has got into the water... And think about this... .hospitals.... flooded... blood waste AIDS .. and wasnt there some testing facilities in that area as well - that US citizens will never know what they were using, testing or creating.... dont mean to be an alarmist - but the water is going to kill the lake and a major part of the gulf in that area for many many decades to come.. say goodbye to shrimping industry along with any other fishing industry that relys on gulf waters

I had to edit my own post to add...... would they be so anal about getting everyone out if it was only normal polutates that result from a storm... lets all get a grip on just how serious this is. Hig waste in the water along with everything else that was expected with the flood in eastern NC .... aint even close.....


I really do not believe that it is going to be that destructive to the ecosystem. While I do believe that there is going to be short term horrible impacts to both the lake and the gulf of Mexico, I trust that the marsh habitat will actually serve as a biological filter and detoxify much of this waste. You have to have some faith in natural processes. Artifical wetlands are and have been being used to detoxify hazardous wastes on an experimental leve. 1-5 acres. While large scale use has not been implemented there is ample evidence that wetlands serve a huge purpose in detoxifing waste.
Tim


SORRY TIM WRONG

6 years later from FLOYD in eastern NC... the TAR river is a piece of crap "literily" ... and we didnt have ports with god knows what stored... I wont go fishing in it let alone think of ever eating a fish from it.

I know what choice do they have... but long term effects are going to be catastrophic.


actually the tar has cleaned up nicely the fish are striving and its become a decent fishery again.I do not know if i would eat the fish out of any river if you read the wildlife guide they label each waterway with a hazard level and most say "not recommended for pregneant women" well i am not a woman but if they shouldn't eat it i aint going to either!
0 likes   

Brent
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 37991
Age: 36
Joined: Sun May 16, 2004 10:30 pm
Location: Tulsa Oklahoma
Contact:

Re: calling on all LA lawyers

#44 Postby Brent » Fri Sep 09, 2005 10:00 am

RichG wrote:Folks I am serious, she just isn't up to the task. I hope some body in LA can find a way to legally remove her from office as she criminally incompetent. Even more people will die from disease and god knows what else.


I heard about her wanting to wait for the tests as well... I can't figure out who's more incomptent, the LA Governor or the NO mayor? :roll:
0 likes   
#neversummer


Return to “Hurricane Recovery and Aftermath”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 240 guests