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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#4041 Postby starsfan65 » Tue Feb 09, 2021 6:39 pm

Ralph's Weather wrote:GFS Para gives me 10" of snow Monday morning.

For me, in 3 storms I will get 7-10 inches here.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#4042 Postby Ntxw » Tue Feb 09, 2021 6:42 pm

18z GFS gets DFW down to -4 after the snow. Who believes it?
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#4043 Postby EnnisTx » Tue Feb 09, 2021 6:46 pm

Ntxw wrote:18z GFS gets DFW down to -4 after the snow. Who believes it?


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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#4044 Postby dhweather » Tue Feb 09, 2021 6:51 pm

18Z GFS is a wee bit chilly. Image
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#4045 Postby DFW Stormwatcher » Tue Feb 09, 2021 6:55 pm

Question that ive wondered many times. The high temp plotted by nws for my location is 36 degrees, the actual temp right now is 31 and 32 for alliance or 5 degrees below their hourly projection. The current forecast is based on not reaching freezing until midnight, yet we’ve already reached freezing.

Why is observational data not taken into account when updating the nws forecast?

Clearly northern tarrant county should be included in the wwa. Can they not set WWA’s for portions of counties like thunderstorm warnings? Just curious because schools are trying to plan for tomorrow right now on bad info. Any insight would be appreciated.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#4046 Postby Ralph's Weather » Tue Feb 09, 2021 6:56 pm

Para also has more snow in a couple batches later in the week.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#4047 Postby HockeyTx82 » Tue Feb 09, 2021 6:58 pm

At this rate we all might be tired of cold and snow if this plays out.

Wxman57 will get his revenge in summer.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#4048 Postby rwfromkansas » Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:01 pm

Dropped 2 degrees to 32 IMBY so clearly CAA still ongoing as sun goes away.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#4049 Postby WacoWx » Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:01 pm

He did in 2011!
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#4050 Postby HockeyTx82 » Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:08 pm

rwfromkansas wrote:Dropped 2 degrees to 32 IMBY so clearly CAA still ongoing as sun goes away.


I don't think Denton got above 32 today........
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#4051 Postby TropicalTundra » Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:08 pm

Hope everyone in the metroplex is enjoying these cold 30’s. It’s 50 degrees here. lol :spam:
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#4052 Postby Brent » Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:16 pm

TropicalTundra wrote:Hope everyone in the metroplex is enjoying these cold 30’s. It’s 50 degrees here. lol :spam:


It would be better with snow :spam:

I'm feeling somewhat optimistic about the Monday storm but it's still so far away
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#4053 Postby rwfromkansas » Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:18 pm

Brent wrote:
TropicalTundra wrote:Hope everyone in the metroplex is enjoying these cold 30’s. It’s 50 degrees here. lol :spam:


It would be better with snow :spam:

I'm feeling somewhat optimistic about the Monday storm but it's still so far away


The snow keeps getting pushed back. Saturday looks unlikely now, so hope Monday delivers.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#4054 Postby bubba hotep » Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:22 pm

DFW airport back down to 32F, models sowed:

18z 3k NAM - 40F
18z GFS - 42F
18z HRRR - 36F
18z RGEM - 45F
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Texas Winter 2020-2021

#4055 Postby WacoWx » Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:29 pm

Are temps in DFW expected to modify overnight?

Down to 33.3 imby
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#4056 Postby BrokenGlassRepublicn » Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:31 pm

DFW Stormwatcher wrote:Question that ive wondered many times. The high temp plotted by nws for my location is 36 degrees, the actual temp right now is 31 and 32 for alliance or 5 degrees below their hourly projection. The current forecast is based on not reaching freezing until midnight, yet we’ve already reached freezing.

Why is observational data not taken into account when updating the nws forecast?

Clearly northern tarrant county should be included in the wwa. Can they not set WWA’s for portions of counties like thunderstorm warnings? Just curious because schools are trying to plan for tomorrow right now on bad info. Any insight would be appreciated.


NOT a PRO MET, but as I recall from earlier this year, not to mention past events, arctic air is shallow and the rain will fall from higher altitudes that are warmer and the rain warm the lower levels above freezing as it falls. That's the only logical explanation for why they are sticking to the models.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#4057 Postby DFW Stormwatcher » Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:44 pm

BrokenGlassRepublicn wrote:
DFW Stormwatcher wrote:Question that ive wondered many times. The high temp plotted by nws for my location is 36 degrees, the actual temp right now is 31 and 32 for alliance or 5 degrees below their hourly projection. The current forecast is based on not reaching freezing until midnight, yet we’ve already reached freezing.

Why is observational data not taken into account when updating the nws forecast?

Clearly northern tarrant county should be included in the wwa. Can they not set WWA’s for portions of counties like thunderstorm warnings? Just curious because schools are trying to plan for tomorrow right now on bad info. Any insight would be appreciated.


NOT a PRO MET, but as I recall from earlier this year, not to mention past events, arctic air is shallow and the rain will fall from higher altitudes that are warmer and the rain warm the lower levels above freezing as it falls. That's the only logical explanation for why they are sticking to the models.


I get that concerning the temp at altitude’s above 3000 ft, but their forecast is pushing surface temps in that equation at 2am at one degree higher than the temps are now which are evidently going to be 31 or lower.

The nws mentioned that it would be super cooled raindrops...
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#4058 Postby Ralph's Weather » Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:44 pm

rwfromkansas wrote:
Brent wrote:
TropicalTundra wrote:Hope everyone in the metroplex is enjoying these cold 30’s. It’s 50 degrees here. lol :spam:


It would be better with snow :spam:

I'm feeling somewhat optimistic about the Monday storm but it's still so far away


The snow keeps getting pushed back. Saturday looks unlikely now, so hope Monday delivers.
GFS and GFS Para show 1 to 2 inhes of snow Saturday for DFW
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#4059 Postby Iceresistance » Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:48 pm

I got NAMed, twice

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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#4060 Postby Quixotic » Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:50 pm

BrokenGlassRepublicn wrote:
DFW Stormwatcher wrote:Question that ive wondered many times. The high temp plotted by nws for my location is 36 degrees, the actual temp right now is 31 and 32 for alliance or 5 degrees below their hourly projection. The current forecast is based on not reaching freezing until midnight, yet we’ve already reached freezing.

Why is observational data not taken into account when updating the nws forecast?

Clearly northern tarrant county should be included in the wwa. Can they not set WWA’s for portions of counties like thunderstorm warnings? Just curious because schools are trying to plan for tomorrow right now on bad info. Any insight would be appreciated.


NOT a PRO MET, but as I recall from earlier this year, not to mention past events, arctic air is shallow and the rain will fall from higher altitudes that are warmer and the rain warm the lower levels above freezing as it falls. That's the only logical explanation for why they are sticking to the models.


Typically, yes that would be the case. I’ve heard mention that droplets for this system might be “super-cooled” in which keeps the amount of latent heat release to a minimum. Anybody feel free to correct me if I’m wrong. Played a big part of the December ‘13 north Texas ice-sleet storm.
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