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#421 Postby summersquall » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:49 pm

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THIS SYSTEM HAS A HIGH CHANCE...70 PERCENT...OF BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#422 Postby torrea40 » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:49 pm

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
800 PM EDT SUN JUL 7 2013

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

A STRONG TROPICAL WAVE LOCATED ABOUT 1050 MILES EAST-SOUTHEAST OF
THE WINDWARD ISLANDS IS MOVING WEST-NORTHWESTWARD AT AROUND 25 MPH.
SATELLITE IMAGERY INDICATES THAT SHOWER AND THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY
HAS INCREASED IN ORGANIZATION SINCE THIS AFTERNOON. ENVIRONMENTAL
CONDITIONS ARE CONDUCIVE FOR ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT...AND THIS
DISTURBANCE COULD BECOME A TROPICAL DEPRESSION OR TROPICAL STORM
LATER TONIGHT OR ON MONDAY. THIS SYSTEM HAS A HIGH CHANCE...70
PERCENT...OF BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.
IF DEVELOPMENT OCCURS...TROPICAL STORM WARNINGS WOULD LIKELY BE
ISSUED FOR PORTIONS OF THE LESSER ANTILLES. REGARDLESS OF
DEVELOPMENT...THIS SYSTEM IS EXPECTED TO PRODUCE LOCALLY HEAVY
RAINS AND WINDS TO TROPICAL STORM FORCE IN SQUALLS OVER PORTIONS OF
THE LESSER ANTILLES ON MONDAY NIGHT AND TUESDAY. AN AIR FORCE
RESERVE HURRICANE HUNTER AIRCRAFT IS SCHEDULED TO INVESTIGATE THE
DISTURBANCE ON MONDAY AFTERNOON.

ELSEWHERE...TROPIC
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Models

#423 Postby SapphireSea » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:55 pm

Steve H. wrote:Pleeeassseeee. How do you even know there will be land interaction? Way too early to know. Models will be adjusting as 95L moves toward the west. May not even survive as it approaches the Caribbean, though I think it may. Could cruise right into the gulf if it keeps low latitude. :roll:


It's all about speculation using model data. You are correct in a way, but xtrap shows a system gaining latitude, moving quickly, it could be at the islands as early as late tomorrow. Slowing down some maybe under PR and or Hisp in 2 maybe 3 days. Looking at model data consensus shifting right, land interaction is not out of the cards by a longshot. But yes, still speculation. Could end up crashing into S.Amer or Trek right onto the EPAC who knows.


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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Models

#424 Postby Blown Away » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:59 pm

Steve H. wrote:Pleeeassseeee. How do you even know there will be land interaction? Way too early to know. Models will be adjusting as 95L moves toward the west. May not even survive as it approaches the Caribbean, though I think it may. Could cruise right into the gulf if it keeps low latitude. :roll:


Most of the models move 95L over/near the big islands, that's what we have to go on for now! Of course 95L could go N or S of the big islands or never develop.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#425 Postby abajan » Sun Jul 07, 2013 7:04 pm

ozonepete wrote:There's 95L showing up better in the middle of the Atlantic on this wide shot. Looks like it has a friend behind it. Very active easterly wave action for early July. This usually doesn't happen until mid August or so.
Exactly what I've been telling folks here on the island. One can only imagine what September will be like! Hopefully, we'll be pleasantly surprised.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#426 Postby ozonepete » Sun Jul 07, 2013 7:04 pm

I guess they'll wait until later tonight to upgrade, but it sure looks like a TS already. At least they've already said that warnings will likely go up for the islands, so I assume some preps get started after the NHC issues a statement like that. Would that be right, Luis? Gusty? Abajan?

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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#427 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jul 07, 2013 7:08 pm

ozonepete wrote:I guess they'll wait until later tonight to upgrade, but it sure looks like a TS already. At least they've already said that warnings will likely go up for the islands, so I assume some preps get started after the NHC issues a statement like that. Would that be right, Luis? Gusty?

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Here in PR,already the talk of the TV mets is about this system but I am sure that the government will make the preparations starting on Monday.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Models

#428 Postby caneman » Sun Jul 07, 2013 7:12 pm

Blown Away wrote:
Steve H. wrote:Pleeeassseeee. How do you even know there will be land interaction? Way too early to know. Models will be adjusting as 95L moves toward the west. May not even survive as it approaches the Caribbean, though I think it may. Could cruise right into the gulf if it keeps low latitude. :roll:


Most of the models move 95L over/near the big islands, that's what we have to go on for now! Of course 95L could go N or S of the big islands or never develop.


It could develop then weaken and not strengthen again until the West Carib. Way too many options and things that could happen.
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#429 Postby Gustywind » Sun Jul 07, 2013 7:14 pm

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AXNT20 KNHC 080006
TWDAT

TROPICAL WEATHER DISCUSSION
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
805 PM EDT SUN JUL 07 2013

TROPICAL WEATHER DISCUSSION FOR NORTH AMERICA...CENTRAL
AMERICA...GULF OF MEXICO...CARIBBEAN SEA...NORTHERN SECTIONS OF
SOUTH AMERICA...AND ATLANTIC OCEAN TO THE AFRICAN COAST FROM THE
EQUATOR TO 32N. THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION IS BASED ON SATELLITE
IMAGERY...WEATHER OBSERVATIONS...RADAR...AND METEOROLOGICAL
ANALYSIS.

BASED ON 1800 UTC SURFACE ANALYSIS AND SATELLITE IMAGERY THROUGH
2315 UTC.

...SPECIAL FEATURES...
A 1008 MB LOW IS EMBEDDED WITHIN THE ITCZ AXIS NEAR 09N43W.
UPPER LEVEL DIFFLUENCE FROM AN INVERTED TROUGH WITH AXIS NEAR
50W AND A RIDGE EXTENDING TO 48W IS SUPPORTING A CLUSTER OF
MODERATE CONVECTION FROM 05N-11N BETWEEN 44W-47W. THE FORMER
TROPICAL WAVE THAT WAS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS LOW IS CURRENTLY
ANALYZED AS A SURFACE TROUGH NEAR 340 NM EAST OF THE LESSER
ANTILLES. SEE THE ATLC SECTION BELOW FOR MORE INFORMATION ABOUT
IT. OTHERWISE...THE LOW IS EXPECTED TO MOVE W-NW WITH A HIGH
CHANCE OF BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE WITHIN THE NEXT 48 HOURS.
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#430 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Sun Jul 07, 2013 7:17 pm

Looks the best it has all day now.
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#431 Postby Nimbus » Sun Jul 07, 2013 7:18 pm

95L is rolling along at 22 mph almost fast enough to keep up with the Easterlies and maintain a moisture envelope.

Thought by now the dry Easterlies would have left a naked swirl which is still a likely event if there is any slowing in the forward motion.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#432 Postby Gustywind » Sun Jul 07, 2013 7:20 pm

ozonepete wrote:I guess they'll wait until later tonight to upgrade, but it sure looks like a TS already. At least they've already said that warnings will likely go up for the islands, so I assume some preps get started after the NHC issues a statement like that. Would that be right, Luis? Gusty? Abajan?

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Hi Ozonepete :). Here in Guadeloupe, no mention, no talk tv about this feature. Our Pro Mets of Meteo-France Guadeloupe expected an active twave crossing Guadeloupe Tuesday afternoon bringing strong showers and tstorms with gusts reaching 60 km/h.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#433 Postby ouragans » Sun Jul 07, 2013 7:28 pm

Gustywind wrote:Here in Guadeloupe, no mention, no talk tv about this feature. Our Pro Mets of Meteo-France Guadeloupe expected an active twave crossing Guadeloupe Tuesday afternoon bringing strong showers and tstorms with gusts reaching 60 km/h.


what we don't have is Martinique's point of view, because I think they are more concerned than us in Guadeloupe. But as I know my martinican friends at Meteo-France Martinique, they must be sleeping as well
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#434 Postby ozonepete » Sun Jul 07, 2013 7:29 pm

Btw, most of us know that SAL, the Saharan Air Layer (which contains a lot of Saharan dust) can "choke off" convection in a TC. But this system is a really good example of why a TC or developing TC can be right on the edge of a large area of SAL but not be affected by it. Notice that the SAL layer, outlined in brown, is being pushed away by the low to mid-level circulation of the TC itself. This is also aided by the fact that there's no shear from the north which could push the dust into the TC, and the system is moving quickly, which enhances the easterly and northerly winds on the north side of it, helping to keep the dust at bay.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#435 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jul 07, 2013 7:32 pm

00z Best Track

AL, 95, 2013070800, , BEST, 0, 100N, 460W, 35, 1008, WV
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#436 Postby Evil Jeremy » Sun Jul 07, 2013 7:38 pm

When was the last time the NHC initiated advisories on a system at 11pm? I don't recall anything of the sort happening in the past few years...
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#437 Postby ozonepete » Sun Jul 07, 2013 7:38 pm

cycloneye wrote:00z Best Track

AL, 95, 2013070800, , BEST, 0, 100N, 460W, 35, 1008, WV


Hmmm. That puts the center quite close to the developing convective concentration overhead. Also, it looks like this has started a jog to the west-northwest, which concurs with the NHC statement. That would bring it closer to the more northerly islands.

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#438 Postby ozonepete » Sun Jul 07, 2013 7:39 pm

Evil Jeremy wrote:When was the last time the NHC initiated advisories on a system at 11pm? I don't recall anything of the sort happening in the past few years...


Good question. But they are running out of time for 48 hour notice...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#439 Postby Gustywind » Sun Jul 07, 2013 7:40 pm

ouragans wrote:
Gustywind wrote:Here in Guadeloupe, no mention, no talk tv about this feature. Our Pro Mets of Meteo-France Guadeloupe expected an active twave crossing Guadeloupe Tuesday afternoon bringing strong showers and tstorms with gusts reaching 60 km/h.


what we don't have is Martinique's point of view, because I think they are more concerned than us in Guadeloupe. But as I know my martinican friends at Meteo-France Martinique, they must be sleeping as well

You're right :). Given 95L locality and the weather forecasts, they might be more concerned, let's wait and see. They're sleeping? :lol:
As usual, the citizens are not often well informed in these two islands...
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#440 Postby Cainer » Sun Jul 07, 2013 7:44 pm

Evil Jeremy wrote:When was the last time the NHC initiated advisories on a system at 11pm? I don't recall anything of the sort happening in the past few years...


Last time a first advisory was issued at 11 PM was for TS Florence last year, so 15 storms ago (but you're right that it doesn't happen very often).
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