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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#421 Postby WeatherBoy2000 » Fri Oct 24, 2025 9:26 am

ScottNAtlanta wrote:It's getting hard to see what is movement and what is caused by shear


I think the NHC summed up Melissa's movement pretty well in the latest advisory:

For all intents and purposes, Melissa is nearly stationary over the
north-central Caribbean Sea.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#422 Postby cheezyWXguy » Fri Oct 24, 2025 9:35 am

Clearly a lot of reorganization going on this morning. Center relocations are making things confusing, but overall the system looks much healthier than yesterday and the whole envelope is rotating pretty aggressively on satellite. Convection starting to appear on the western side of the envelope too. Conditions are becoming more favorable, everything still seems to be on track for this to become a major.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#423 Postby GCANE » Fri Oct 24, 2025 9:41 am

Visible Satellite showing rapid convergence at the mid-levels.
This will work down to the surface before sunset.

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/sat/sat ... roduct=vis
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#424 Postby GCANE » Fri Oct 24, 2025 9:56 am

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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#425 Postby GCANE » Fri Oct 24, 2025 10:04 am

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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#426 Postby sasha_B » Fri Oct 24, 2025 10:15 am

Melissa's raw T# on the UW-CIMSS page jumped from 2.2 to 3.6 with the identification of the new center, as it's now back under the CDO. Let's see if it can stay there this time.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#427 Postby cheezyWXguy » Fri Oct 24, 2025 10:16 am

GCANE wrote:Visible Satellite showing rapid convergence at the mid-levels.
This will work down to the surface before sunset.

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/sat/sat ... roduct=vis

I wouldn’t be surprised if this drill down process were attempting to take place right now, that mlc looks vigorous, especially with upper level outflow beginning to increase radially from the center of that main burst. The current llc centered on the nw side of this burst seems to be losing influence. I wonder how long it will be before recon starts seeing evidence of this process.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#428 Postby aspen » Fri Oct 24, 2025 10:30 am

11am cone now shows a 130 kt landfall in Jamaica.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#429 Postby GCANE » Fri Oct 24, 2025 10:34 am

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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#430 Postby GCANE » Fri Oct 24, 2025 10:37 am

Hopefully there is an EWRC underway while on approach to Jamaica
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#431 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Fri Oct 24, 2025 10:38 am

cheezyWXguy wrote:
GCANE wrote:Visible Satellite showing rapid convergence at the mid-levels.
This will work down to the surface before sunset.

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/sat/sat ... roduct=vis

I wouldn’t be surprised if this drill down process were attempting to take place right now, that mlc looks vigorous, especially with upper level outflow beginning to increase radially from the center of that main burst. The current llc centered on the nw side of this burst seems to be losing influence. I wonder how long it will be before recon starts seeing evidence of this process.

Recon really is hitting that area. They've looped around and are going back to it
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#432 Postby GCANE » Fri Oct 24, 2025 10:40 am

Massive helicity on Water Vapor imagery.

https://weather.cod.edu/satrad/?parms=r ... =undefined
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#433 Postby ljmac75 » Fri Oct 24, 2025 10:46 am

aspen wrote:11am cone now shows a 130 kt landfall in Jamaica.

If this verifies this would be the strongest landfalling hurricane on record in Jamaica.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#434 Postby GCANE » Fri Oct 24, 2025 10:46 am

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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#435 Postby Teban54 » Fri Oct 24, 2025 10:56 am

ljmac75 wrote:
aspen wrote:11am cone now shows a 130 kt landfall in Jamaica.

If this verifies this would be the strongest landfalling hurricane on record in Jamaica.

The advisory also had an ominous note about why:
Every single Google DeepMind member shows the
system become a Category 4 hurricane or higher
, and the uncertainty
is more related on the timing of when RI occurs. [...] The latest NHC intensity forecast is
on the higher end of the model solutions, but more or less in line
with the latest GDMI guidance
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#436 Postby cycloneye » Fri Oct 24, 2025 11:13 am

Hey folks. The winds are going up now as the AF plane continues the mission.

Peak Flight-Level Winds: 59kt at 15:58z
Peak SFMR: 58kt at 15:57z
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#437 Postby sasha_B » Fri Oct 24, 2025 11:16 am

Recon is observing 50~60 kt flight-level winds, and Melissa's satellite presentation is still improving. If that trend persists, I think it's quite possible that the NHC will go with 45 kts on the 18z advisory, which would be in line with their forecasts from last night.
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NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#438 Postby Sanibel » Fri Oct 24, 2025 11:28 am

Looks like it survived the Caribbean Graveyard (to say the least)...
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#439 Postby zzzh » Fri Oct 24, 2025 11:39 am

Extrap pressure down to 999.5mb
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#440 Postby Sciencerocks » Fri Oct 24, 2025 11:49 am

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