ATL: ELSA - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4201 Postby AlphaToOmega » Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:02 pm

tolakram wrote:Latest shear analysis shows the reduction in shear.
https://i.imgur.com/vFfUY8I.png

That is bad news for anyone who lives in Florida (Tampa Bay area especially).
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4202 Postby SunnyThoughts » Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:04 pm

Very interested in seeing what the Hurricane Hunters find. That eye/eyelike feature looks to be much better organized that earlier.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4203 Postby InfernoFlameCat » Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:04 pm

I may have to listen to opera music based on that look of the storm
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4204 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:06 pm

typhoonty wrote:https://imgur.com/a/7IoIkOb
https://i.imgur.com/LwHCaQv.png

Well this was more impressive than I was expecting! And Irma was stronger in terms of winds for Tampa Bay but the surge may be worse because winds will be onshore this time. Very interested to see what recon finds.

Well, that's impressive.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4205 Postby SconnieCane » Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:06 pm

I was mighty confused by some of the earlier comparisons to Eta (2020). I had that storm in my mind as a Cat. 4 into Nicaragua and then dead. Totally forgot it pulled a Mitch and came back up to FL as a TS. :lol:
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4206 Postby johngaltfla » Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:07 pm

And of course, some of my less enlightened neighbors didn't listen and their crap is flying down the street already....a full 2+ hours before the heavy winds get here. Folks, secure your things. A tropical storm can fling dangerous objects as well as a hurricane when the gusts top 70 mph.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4207 Postby tolakram » Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:07 pm

saved loop
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4208 Postby johngaltfla » Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:08 pm

tolakram wrote:saved loop
https://imgur.com/HPHk7QD


She looks hungry for more warm water and a vibrant DMAX. Not good for Pinellas on north.
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#4209 Postby HurricaneBelle » Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:10 pm

johngaltfla wrote:And of course, some of my less enlightened neighbors didn't listen and their crap is flying down the street already....a full 2+ hours before the heavy winds get here. Folks, secure your things. A tropical storm can fling dangerous objects as well as a hurricane when the gusts top 70 mph.


One of our local realtors planted little flags on sticks in front of every house in our neighborhood for July 4 and driving around earlier today it looked like at least 50% of them were still out by the street.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4210 Postby gatorcane » Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:10 pm

Best Elsa has looked since she was a hurricane in the eastern Caribbean. Looks like the shear has relaxed and she is taking advantage.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4211 Postby TallyTracker » Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:10 pm

That’s one of the more bizarre radar presentations I’ve seen with an oval eye due to the shear. Does look like it may be a hurricane now.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4212 Postby Evenstar » Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:11 pm

InfernoFlameCat wrote:I may have to listen to opera music based on that look of the storm


If I've learned anything whilst hanging around Storm2k, it's that you don't make bets ('cuz storms don't play fair) and you don't talk smack about the NHC. :wink:
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4213 Postby artist » Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:12 pm

Recon about half way there
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4214 Postby Frank P » Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:13 pm

Looks like a hurricane to me on both radar and sat and going to surge a lot of water in Tampa Bay!
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4215 Postby fllawyer » Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:13 pm

Seen it alluded to, but the occurrence of basically back-to-back-to-back high tides beginning with a high tide Wednesday at 230am of +1.8, a “low” tide of +1.6 at 7am, and culminating in a quite high tide of +2.8 at 12:35pm will not bode well for when Elsa passes and wind turns to onshore flow.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4216 Postby johngaltfla » Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:13 pm

HurricaneBelle wrote:
johngaltfla wrote:And of course, some of my less enlightened neighbors didn't listen and their crap is flying down the street already....a full 2+ hours before the heavy winds get here. Folks, secure your things. A tropical storm can fling dangerous objects as well as a hurricane when the gusts top 70 mph.


One of our local realtors planted little flags on sticks in front of every house in our neighborhood for July 4 and driving around earlier today it looked like at least 50% of them were still out by the street.


And that's why all of these new folks in Florida look forward to the "adventure" and do not understand nor respect just how dangerous a Cat 1 is. During Michelle, I had a bedroom window blow out requiring a mid-storm hurried redneck improvised repair until the winds calmed down.

Hopefully some of the new residents are paying attention.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4217 Postby igoldfish » Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:17 pm

Just inland from Fort Myers Beach. Been a complete non-event here, all day. Very grateful to have dodged a getting-more-serious bullet. Reminds me of watching Charley go by until it made that awful turn to the East. Good luck to my northern neighbors
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#4218 Postby Sanibel » Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:17 pm

Exhibiting signs of hurricane...Eyewall-like feature more defined...
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4219 Postby GrayLancer18 » Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:26 pm

tolakram wrote:Latest shear analysis shows the reduction in shear.
https://i.imgur.com/vFfUY8I.png


Levi mentioned it in one of his videos. Neutral shear (around 20kts) is enough to keep it from RI but not enough to shred Elsa, so there is space from some slow development.
C1 hurricane is doable.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4220 Postby caneman » Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:29 pm

Hopefully this will once and for all quiet the people that year after year mock and downplay these Northward heading sheared type storms towards Florida's west coast. Many times the shear will actually aid or not kill off a system because the storm is moving with the shear. I've lived on the West coast of Florida since 1976, and I'll take first hand experience over prognosticators any day
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