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Re: ATL: Invest 92L=Breaking News=Best Track intensity=35 kts

#4281 Postby Blown Away » Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:18 pm

Looking at the visible it appears Fay just realized she is running into the DR, burst of convection over the estimated center (18.6N/68.6W) and a NW wobble.
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-vis.html
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L in Western Atlantic

#4282 Postby cpdaman » Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:18 pm

Air Force Met wrote:
Category 5 wrote:Hello Fay

AL, 06, 2008081518, , BEST, 0, 185N, 686W, 35, 1009, TS, 34, NEQ, 75, 0, 0, 75, 1013,


Yep...and it sure as heck isn't sitting on the north coast...or off the north coast of the DR.

Where's Aric? :D


well done Air force met, now do you think this may skip around to the north or the south when land interaction with the mountains (on the west side of island) get's closer?
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L=Breaking News=Best Track intensity=35 kts

#4283 Postby gatorcane » Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:19 pm

jinftl wrote:As a wave, this feature has generated news here in south florida....if we have a named system and south florida is in the 'cone' at 5pm, this is really going to take off as a news item down here.....the onslaught will begin in less than an hour


Well South Florida should be in the cone, as of this AM the line would have aimed right at SE Florida -- now I see the line more in the Eastern GOM somewhere. As usual people will concentrate on the line here in SE Florida and say its going west and missing the area. Just yesterday I was hearing "its going east of us" :roll:
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L in Western Atlantic

#4284 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:20 pm

Air Force Met wrote:
Category 5 wrote:Hello Fay

AL, 06, 2008081518, , BEST, 0, 185N, 686W, 35, 1009, TS, 34, NEQ, 75, 0, 0, 75, 1013,


Yep...and it sure as heck isn't sitting on the north coast...or off the north coast of the DR.

Where's Aric? :D


im here ... nice... i was taking a nap just got off work..

cool so still waiting on the Nhc Offical but its was a tough call either way

nice job....

they did check north of the island though :)

i figured about an hour or so ago it was just a vorticy that i was tracking as it started to acclerate.
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L=Breaking News=Best Track intensity=35 kts

#4285 Postby dolebot_Broward_NW » Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:21 pm

Is this just a forecast or evidence this thing is getting upgraded?


Usually when you see a vortex data message from recon, then shortly afterwards - the Navy NRL site changes it to "06.NONAME" or 06L.FAY (as in this case) its a fairly safe bet that it'll be upgraded. Being that 35kt winds were in the best track - and that its currently listed as 06l.fay - I'm going to say that unofficially we have TS Fay on our hands! YAY! FINALLY!
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L=Breaking News=Best Track intensity=35 kts

#4286 Postby BigA » Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:21 pm

I would not want to be the NHC forecaster who has to come up with an intensity forecast with this advisory. I guess it will just be based on the forecast track.
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L=Breaking News=Best Track intensity=35 kts

#4287 Postby Cookiely » Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:22 pm

Not sure if this was posted or not. I love the sense of humor.

FXUS62 KTBW 151745
AFDTBW

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TAMPA BAY RUSKIN FL
145 PM EDT FRI AUG 15 2008

...UNCERTAINTY IN TROPICAL SITUATION MEANS LITTLE CHANGE IN
FORECAST UNTIL/WHEN/IF/WHERE A STORM ACTUALLY DEVELOPS...

COORDINATED WITH SURROUNDING OFFICES AND FAVOR THE DGEX MODEL FOR
NOW.

.SHORT TERM (TONIGHT - SUNDAY)...MOISTURE ALONG STALLED NORTH GULF
BOUNDARY CONTINUES THROUGH SATURDAY NIGHT. THIS WILL KEEP WESTERLY
LOW LEVEL FLOW AND PRECIP IN FORECAST ONE MORE DAY...MOST
WIDESPREAD FROM TAMPA AND NORTH. EXPECT LOW LEVEL EASTERLY FLOW TO
TAKE OVER SUNDAY SO BEST CHANCE OF RAIN ALONG SEA BREEZE FRONT
ALONG GULF COAST.

.LONG TERM (SUNDAY NIGHT - FRIDAY)...MUCH DEPENDS UPON THE WAVE
CURRENTLY OVER PR AND USVI. THE DGEX AND ECMWF AND TO A LESS EXTENT
THE GFS TRACK THE SYSTEM NORTHWARD OFF THE FL EAST COAST THROUGH
MUCH OF THE PERIOD. HOWEVER...THE GFS HAS HAD SOME DIFFERENCES RUN
TO RUN W/R/T THE TRACK. WILL THEREFORE CONTINUE TO FAVOR THE DGEX
FOR WIND FIELDS. POPS IN THE SCATTERED RANGE WITH MOSTLY DIURNAL
TIMING ALTHOUGH WILL TREND POPS UP SOME ABOUT MID-WEEK. WILL KEEP
TEMPS CLOSE TO NORMAL FOR NOW.
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L=Breaking News=Best Track intensity=35 kts

#4288 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:25 pm

BigA wrote:I would not want to be the NHC forecaster who has to come up with an intensity forecast with this advisory. I guess it will just be based on the forecast track.


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These are just my guesses, and follows the median in the models, hugging the northern shores into the Florida Straits:

Current - 45 kt
12 hr - 35 kt - Inland
24 hr - 35 kt - Over water
48 hr - 50 kt
72 hr - 65 kt
96 hr - 85 kt
120 hr - 100 kt
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#4289 Postby Cyclenall » Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:25 pm

This is going to be one of the most intresting NHC first forecasts we might see in years. I have no idea what track or strength they will forecast.
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#4290 Postby OuterBanker » Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:26 pm

So it inits at 18.5n 68.6w. The north blob right on or just off ne DR coast.
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L=Breaking News=Best Track intensity=35 kts

#4291 Postby cpdaman » Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:27 pm

what's the deal with the steering flow over east CUBA appears to be a temporary lessening of the "turning mechanism" which would lift fay NW. appears the trough is being more zonal in only my amateur opinion. anyone know if there is any support for this idea? (at least concerning a delayed turn to the north)
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#4292 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:27 pm

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#4293 Postby jinftl » Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:27 pm

yep...we could see a system either dissipate over land or blow up into a major....and 100 miles or so in track might make the difference.

Cyclenall wrote:This is going to be one of the most intresting NHC first forecasts we might see in years. I have no idea what track or strength they will forecast.
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L=Breaking News=Best Track intensity=35 kts

#4294 Postby Canelaw99 » Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:29 pm

jinftl wrote:As a wave, this feature has generated news here in south florida....if we have a named system and south florida is in the 'cone' at 5pm, this is really going to take off as a news item down here.....the onslaught will begin in less than an hour


LOL and The Weather Channel just showed their "It Could Happen Tomorrow" this afternoon - with a cat 5 hitting Miami.
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#4295 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:29 pm

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I would say
Now 45 knots
6 hours 35 knots
12 hours 30 knots
24 hours 30 knots possibly trying to get back over water.
36 hours 30 knots over Cuba
48 hours 40 knots south or north of Cuba. Who knows
72 hours possibly where ever 50 knots.
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Re: ATL: 92L

#4296 Postby mel38 » Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:31 pm

our local weather guy just said it's official either td or ts. this was channel 25 mike lyons palm beach.
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Re: ATL: 92L

#4297 Postby Blown Away » Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:32 pm

NNW wobble on the visible, feeling the land and deciding either N or S. I'll say N IMO.
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Re: ATL: Invest 92L in Western Atlantic

#4298 Postby Air Force Met » Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:33 pm

cpdaman wrote:
Air Force Met wrote:
Category 5 wrote:Hello Fay

AL, 06, 2008081518, , BEST, 0, 185N, 686W, 35, 1009, TS, 34, NEQ, 75, 0, 0, 75, 1013,


Yep...and it sure as heck isn't sitting on the north coast...or off the north coast of the DR.

Where's Aric? :D


well done Air force met, now do you think this may skip around to the north or the south when land interaction with the mountains (on the west side of island) get's closer?


Right now...and I know this is a cop out...but I think its 50/50. With the convection firing on the south end...that may serve to pull it south. Steering is going to try and move it WNW. It could also just as easily move right over the spine of the island and get its act together once on the eastern end of Cuba.

It is a real wait and see ball game right now. If I had to bet...I would say it will track over the center of the island or the south side of it. Either way...I think it stays inland and re-emerges on the west coast of Haiti sometime tomorrow. Then I suspect...as I said earlier...a landfall somewhere along the west coast of FL. Not sure where...Panhandle down to the Keys.

JUST A GUESS!!!!
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#4299 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:33 pm

Vivian Brown in TWC just said that if you stay with them you will be the FIRST to know if the disturbance becomes a depression.

I guarantee you that if you stay with us you will be ALWAYS THE FIRST to know when a cyclone has formed.

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Re: ATL: 92L

#4300 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:33 pm

mel38 wrote:our local weather guy just said it's official either td or ts. this was channel 25 mike lyons palm beach.


It's a TS. Not sure what intensity they will set it at though, although 45 kt (50 mph) seems best based on data from the Recon.
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