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Re: 2020 EPAC Season

#441 Postby Yellow Evan » Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:55 am

Not sure why the NHC has the second AOI so high at 0/40 tbh given how erratic models have been for now 3 weeks. Especially given the UKMET continues to show nothing.
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Re: 2020 EPAC Season

#442 Postby aspen » Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:08 am

0/40 AOI develops in 120-126 hours in the 12z GFS run.
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Re: 2020 EPAC Season

#443 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:32 pm

Tropical Weather Outlook
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
1100 AM PDT Fri Jul 3 2020

For the eastern North Pacific...east of 140 degrees west longitude:

1. Disorganized showers and a few thunderstorms continue in
association with a broad area of low pressure located several
hundred miles south of Manzanillo, Mexico. Some gradual development
of this system is possible during the next few days while it moves
west-northwestward at around 10 mph.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...20 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...30 percent.

2. An area of low pressure is forecast to form south of the coast of
southern Mexico in a couple of days. Environmental conditions are
expected to be conducive for gradual development of the system
during the early and middle portions of next week while it moves
west-northwestward, well south of the coast of southern Mexico.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...medium...40 percent.

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Re: 2020 EPAC Season

#444 Postby Yellow Evan » Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:41 pm

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Most encouraging ECMWF run in a while.
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Re: 2020 EPAC Season

#445 Postby aspen » Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:15 pm

Yellow Evan wrote:https://i.imgur.com/oifjUDL.png

https://i.imgur.com/gYuUIFb.png

Most encouraging ECMWF run in a while.

The 12z Euro also develops the 0/40 AOI in only 96 hours.
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Re: 2020 EPAC Season

#446 Postby Kingarabian » Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:50 pm

:uarrow: 96 hours is a long time in model land. Plenty of time for the models to pull back.
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Re: 2020 EPAC Season

#447 Postby Kingarabian » Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:00 pm

NHC needs a circle for the area near 130W. Similar situation to pre-genesis Boric. Models do spin this up and keep it around although they keep it weak.
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Re: 2020 EPAC Season

#448 Postby Kingarabian » Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:04 pm

Shear dropping over the EPAC and CPAC.
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Re: 2020 EPAC Season

#449 Postby Yellow Evan » Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:55 pm

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Re: 2020 EPAC Season

#450 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:40 pm

Tropical Weather Outlook
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
500 PM PDT Fri Jul 3 2020

For the eastern North Pacific...east of 140 degrees west longitude:

1. Showers and thunderstorms have become less organized during the past
24 hours in association with a broad area of low pressure located
several hundred miles south-southwest of Manzanillo, Mexico. Some
slow development of this system is still possible during the next
few days while it moves west-northwestward at about 10 mph.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...10 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...30 percent.

2. An area of low pressure is forecast to form south of the coast of
southern Mexico in a couple of days. Environmental conditions are
expected to be conducive for gradual development, and a tropical
depression could form by the middle of next week while it moves
west-northwestward, well south of the coast of southern Mexico.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...medium...50 percent.

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Re: 2020 EPAC Season

#451 Postby Yellow Evan » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:32 pm

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Favorable pattern if anything seems on its way out after next week. Late July is likely to be at least somewhat less favorable.
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Re: 2020 EPAC Season

#452 Postby gatorcane » Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:48 pm

The EPAC appears it may be cranking up just like clockwork as we start the month of July.

In the super long range it has yet another one in the far eastern EPAC:

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Re: 2020 EPAC Season

#453 Postby Kingarabian » Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:23 am

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Re: 2020 EPAC Season

#454 Postby cycloneye » Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:35 am

Tropical Weather Outlook
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
500 AM PDT Sat Jul 4 2020

For the eastern North Pacific...east of 140 degrees west longitude:

1. A broad area of low pressure located several hundred miles
southwest of Manzanillo, Mexico, continues to produce disorganized
showers and thunderstorms. Some slow development of this system is
still possible during the next few days while it moves
west-northwestward at about 10 mph.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...10 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...30 percent.

2. An area of low pressure is forecast to form south of the coast of
southern Mexico in a couple of days. Environmental conditions are
expected to be conducive for gradual development, and a tropical
depression could form by the middle of next week while it moves
west-northwestward, well south of the coast of southern Mexico.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...medium...60 percent.

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Re: 2020 EPAC Season

#455 Postby aspen » Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:51 am

The latest model trends are very promising for the 0/60 AOI. Not only is their a multiple model consensus, but they continue to show development by Wednesday, and suggest it could start developing as early as Tuesday. The GFS, Euro, and CMC also have a quick spin-up of the 10/30 AOI by Tuesday/Wednesday as well.
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Re: 2020 EPAC Season

#456 Postby aspen » Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:52 am

Here are the most recent model solutions for the 0/60 area of interest and potential long-tracking storm.

06z GFS: first signs of formation as early as 78 hours (early-mid Tuesday), before it fully pulls itself together by 96 hours (early Wednesday). It nears hurricane status in 132 hours (Thursday afternoon) and peaks at 957 mbar in 162 hours (Friday night).

00z ECMWF: vorticity starts to concentrate by 72 hours (Monday night), and by 96-120 hours (no later than early Thursday), there is a fully-fledged TC. Being the Euro model, it doesn’t get as strong as the GFS but still reaches hurricane status.

00z CMC: it starts to form way closer to the Mexican Coast than the other models, and also later, around 108 hours out (early-mid Wednesday). The system takes a more NW path instead of WNW.

06z ICON: looks to start pulling itself together by 72 hours, but it doesn’t get strong at all during the model’s 120 hour time span. Still there, though.
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Re: 2020 EPAC Season

#457 Postby cycloneye » Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:24 am

aspen wrote:Here are the most recent model solutions for the 0/60 area of interest and potential long-tracking storm.

06z GFS: first signs of formation as early as 78 hours (early-mid Tuesday), before it fully pulls itself together by 96 hours (early Wednesday). It nears hurricane status in 132 hours (Thursday afternoon) and peaks at 957 mbar in 162 hours (Friday night).

00z ECMWF: vorticity starts to concentrate by 72 hours (Monday night), and by 96-120 hours (no later than early Thursday), there is a fully-fledged TC. Being the Euro model, it doesn’t get as strong as the GFS but still reaches hurricane status.

00z CMC: it starts to form way closer to the Mexican Coast than the other models, and also later, around 108 hours out (early-mid Wednesday). The system takes a more NW path instead of WNW.

06z ICON: looks to start pulling itself together by 72 hours, but it doesn’t get strong at all during the model’s 120 hour time span. Still there, though.


Very soon you will be doing this same analysis of the models for the strongest one that GFS and ECMWF have behind the 0/60.
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Re: 2020 EPAC Season

#458 Postby aspen » Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:48 am

cycloneye wrote:
aspen wrote:Here are the most recent model solutions for the 0/60 area of interest and potential long-tracking storm.

06z GFS: first signs of formation as early as 78 hours (early-mid Tuesday), before it fully pulls itself together by 96 hours (early Wednesday). It nears hurricane status in 132 hours (Thursday afternoon) and peaks at 957 mbar in 162 hours (Friday night).

00z ECMWF: vorticity starts to concentrate by 72 hours (Monday night), and by 96-120 hours (no later than early Thursday), there is a fully-fledged TC. Being the Euro model, it doesn’t get as strong as the GFS but still reaches hurricane status.

00z CMC: it starts to form way closer to the Mexican Coast than the other models, and also later, around 108 hours out (early-mid Wednesday). The system takes a more NW path instead of WNW.

06z ICON: looks to start pulling itself together by 72 hours, but it doesn’t get strong at all during the model’s 120 hour time span. Still there, though.


Very soon you will be doing this same analysis of the models for the strongest one that GFS and ECMWF have behind the 0/60.

If that’s the case, then I would’ve given up on the EPac and I wouldn’t even bother.
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Re: 2020 EPAC Season

#459 Postby aspen » Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:36 am

12z GFS still shows development on Wednesday. Very good consistency these last few days. Fingers crossed....
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Re: 2020 EPAC Season

#460 Postby cycloneye » Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:18 pm

Tropical Weather Outlook
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
1100 AM PDT Sat Jul 4 2020

For the eastern North Pacific...east of 140 degrees west longitude:

1. A broad area of low pressure located several hundred miles
south of the southern tip of the Baja California peninsula continues
to produce disorganized showers and thunderstorms. Development, if
any, of this system should be slow to occur during the next few
days while it moves west-northwestward at about 10 mph.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...10 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...20 percent.

2. An area of low pressure is forecast to form south of the coast of
southern Mexico in a couple of days. Environmental conditions are
expected to be conducive for gradual development, and a tropical
depression could form by the middle of next week while it moves
west-northwestward, well south of the coast of southern Mexico.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...medium...60 percent.

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