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#4781 Postby sevenleft » Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:01 pm

The G4 data is planned to be ingested for the 00z cycle tonight.
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#4782 Postby jhamps10 » Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:01 pm

canegrl04 wrote:
ConvergenceZone wrote:
Brent wrote:Image


Yikes! I don't like that bend in the track on Tuesday of next week. PERHAPS Texas should really keep an eye on this...


Interesting .Showing a North trend.The CNN weather guy mentioned the model that forecasts Dean as 180mph cane :eek:


which model was that?
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Re: Hurricane DEAN:(Page 106) Discussions, Analysis and Imagery

#4783 Postby Ptarmigan » Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:01 pm

marcane_1973 wrote:I can't remember right off hand but can anyone answer me if a 979mb pressure usually supports winds as high as 100mph?


Yes it could, depending on ambient pressure and size. 979 mb is usually for Category 1 hurricanes.
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#4784 Postby cyclonic chronic » Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:02 pm

i talked to my parents in punta gorda, fla. thats where charlie came ashore, they are totally complacent. they kept saying its going west period. they'll go get water tommrow. water!!! i said they need to be less complacent and have a plan just in case. no response. i hope it doesnt end up there, theyre not prepared at all. even if it doesnt slam into s.w fla. im concerned about later in the season.
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#4785 Postby Eyewall » Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:03 pm

whoa there GFDL

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Re: Hurricane DEAN:(Page 106) Discussions, Analysis and Imagery

#4786 Postby wxmann_91 » Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:03 pm

jhamps10 wrote:which model was that?

HWRF takes this down to 892 mb.


Ptarmigan wrote:
marcane_1973 wrote:I can't remember right off hand but can anyone answer me if a 979mb pressure usually supports winds as high as 100mph?


Yes it could, depending on ambient pressure and size. 979 mb is usually for Category 1 hurricanes.

A strong high to the north is resulting in a stronger than normal pressure gradient. Also the winds in the right-front quad are enhanced by the fast forward speed of the storm.
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Re: Hurricane DEAN:(Page 106) Discussions, Analysis and Imagery

#4787 Postby z-bail » Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:03 pm

it looks to me as the track has shifted slightly to the right as of 5pm. i don't think i've really heard this discussed but are there any chances that it could get pulled into the west coast of florida once it gets into the gulf if the track were to keep moving to the right? or is that like a total longshot? i don't read weather models so i don't make my own predictions i just listen to you guys.
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#4788 Postby sweetpea » Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:04 pm

Chills just broke out all over me when I looked at that graphic Eyewall. It can't happen to them again!!!
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#4789 Postby marcane_1973 » Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:06 pm

The GFDL seems to want to bend it a little bit more to the north now. Looks like it would take Dean in the same area close to where Rita hit. The new models that will be coming in late tonight will be interesting for sure.
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Re: Hurricane DEAN:(Page 106) Discussions, Analysis and Imagery

#4790 Postby vaffie » Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:07 pm

jhamps10 wrote:
which model was that?


The 12Z WRF just off the coast of Cozumel takes it's pressure down to 887 mb, while the 12Z GFDL takes it down to 913 mb in the Central Gulf. Both of those could be consistent with 160-200 mph winds. I'm not saying that that's what will happen and certainly hope that it won't, but that's what they say. For the record, Wilma hit 882 (lowest known Atlantic pressure), Rita hit 897 and Katrina 902.
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#4791 Postby cyclonic chronic » Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:07 pm

Eyewall wrote:whoa there GFDL

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the levees in N.O. wont hold if this scenario pans out. is nagin still mayor? if so look out superdome and greater N.O. if this does come to pass, they should drag him out into the street, shoot him and pick someone else to handle N.O.!! JMO
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#4792 Postby crazycajuncane » Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:08 pm

Eyewall wrote:whoa there GFDL

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Not no..... how about H E L L NO!

I really would prefer my birthday to be debris cleaning and possible evacuation free!
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#4793 Postby artist » Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:08 pm

my understanding is there would have to be a strong coldfront pushing down at just the right time for it to swing back to Fl. which I think is not being shown that there will be one.
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Re: Hurricane DEAN:(Page 106) Discussions, Analysis and Imagery

#4794 Postby Recurve » Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:08 pm

z-bail wrote:it looks to me as the track has shifted slightly to the right as of 5pm. i don't think i've really heard this discussed but are there any chances that it could get pulled into the west coast of florida once it gets into the gulf if the track were to keep moving to the right? or is that like a total longshot? i don't read weather models so i don't make my own predictions i just listen to you guys.


I would say total longshot. I talked to KW NWS this morning, they are concerned that the low forecast to move west could have some effect on the track. But no one as far as I know is thinking a Charlie or Wilma-like front to recurve it completely to the west coast of Florida.

Keep an eye on it though.
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Re: Hurricane DEAN:(Page 106) Discussions, Analysis and Imagery

#4795 Postby Wx_Warrior » Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:09 pm

Don't think that would be strong enough to pull big Dean but who the heck knows at this point?
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#4796 Postby artist » Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:09 pm

it is still several days out - it will more than likely swing back and forth several times.
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Re: Hurricane DEAN:(Page 106) Discussions, Analysis and Imagery

#4797 Postby Ptarmigan » Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:10 pm

Eyewall wrote:whoa there GFDL

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I would take any model with a grain of salt. This one is scary though. Some of the models look scary for Dean, they put in league with Wilma, Gilbert, and Katrina. :eek:
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#4798 Postby tracyswfla » Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:12 pm

I thought the GFDL was one of the more reliable tropical models.
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#4799 Postby artist » Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:13 pm

it is but is still along way out - I think within 5 days it is somewhat accurate.
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Re: Hurricane DEAN:(Page 106) Discussions, Analysis and Imagery

#4800 Postby hial2 » Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:13 pm

cyclonic chronic wrote:
Eyewall wrote:whoa there GFDL



the levees in N.O. wont hold if this scenario pans out. is nagin still mayor? if so look out superdome and greater N.O. if this does come to pass, they should drag him out into the street, shoot him and pick someone else to handle N.O.!! JMO


I think nerves are getting the best of us...this statement is out of line...JMO
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