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#5041 Postby Blown Away » Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:06 am

Extremeweatherguy wrote:If I were to place a center on this thing based on radar, I would place it near the "X" in the following image...

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19.0N/74W IMO.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay

#5042 Postby Sanibel » Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:10 am

Still in the NHC bullseye on track. Center of the spaghetti models too.

The center could be less able to hold on to the deep convection while over 10,000 foot mountains so it slides south from the High pushing it. The way it looked this morning I was considering changing my handle to "Ed's Crowmaster" but I think the center will resolve over water and we'll see where it is. The further south the more intensity.


My foremost thought is that at slower forward speed than Charley that category 1 prediction by NHC off Sanibel is low.
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#5043 Postby Emmett_Brown » Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:12 am

IR loop shows warming tops. Doesnt appear to be strengthening yet:

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-avn.html
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay

#5044 Postby hurricanefloyd5 » Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:12 am

chances of FAY pull a Charile Strength wise when it gets into the GOMEX is what???????
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay

#5045 Postby tolakram » Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:13 am

Well here is an animation centered over 19, 74

http://weather.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/ge ... olor=white

Note you can make your own by editing this URL:

Code: Select all

http://weather.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/get-goes?satellite=GOES-8%20HURRICANE&lat=19&lon=-74&map=standard&zoom=1&info=vis&quality=85&type=Animation&numframes=7&width=1200&height=800&palette=ir.pal&mapcolor=white


remove &type=Animation for a still pic

&lat=19&lon=-74 determine location with lon being negative for this hemisphere.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay

#5046 Postby dixiebreeze » Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:14 am

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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay

#5047 Postby Blown Away » Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:14 am

Getting N-S elongated, is that from disruption or is Fay goingto start a more WNW movement.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay

#5048 Postby Vortex » Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:17 am

1401 utc close imagery now shows the LLC beginning to tighten as it now moving into the gulf of gonave..from her on out look for steady organization to commence...
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay

#5049 Postby txwatcher91 » Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:18 am

Blown_away wrote:Getting N-S elongated, is that from disruption or is Fay goingto start a more WNW movement.


Could be from this, weakness already in ridge.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay

#5050 Postby dixiebreeze » Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:19 am

Vortex wrote:1401 utc close imagery now shows the LLC beginning to tighten as it now moving into the gulf of gonave..from her on out look for steady organization to commence...


I believe that's correct Vortex and as the tropical points illustrate, she will not encounter disruption over eastern Cuba, but rather the flatter terrain of the western island.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay

#5051 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:20 am

The latest at 10:02 AM EDT:

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#5052 Postby rockyman » Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:21 am

as the system moves off the coast, the north side will no longer be "smothered", so it should start building again....from a distance, this will appear as a more northerly movement...just like last night's expansion on the southern flank appeared as a SW movement.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay

#5053 Postby SouthFloridawx » Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:22 am

Yeah... Doesn't look like it's quite off the coast yet.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay

#5054 Postby tolakram » Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:23 am

Google map of Cuba terrain for those interested:

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&g ... 34&t=p&z=7
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#5055 Postby NDG » Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:23 am

rockyman wrote:as the system moves off the coast, the north side will no longer be "smothered", so it should start building again....from a distance, this will appear as a more northerly movement...just like last night's expansion on the southern flank appeared as a SW movement.


Very good point
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay

#5056 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:25 am

Does anyone has a graphic of the topografy of Cuba especially how tall are the mountains of the Sierra Maestra in Eastern Cuba?
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay

#5057 Postby Sanibel » Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:27 am

If that tongue of High pressure over the GOM shown on that map is solid it should push Fay more west (bad scenario).
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay

#5058 Postby hial2 » Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:27 am

cycloneye wrote:Does anyone has a graphic of the topografy of Cuba especially how tall are the mountains of the Sierra Maestra in Eastern Cuba?


Have you tried Google Earth?
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#5059 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:28 am

If this crosses Cuba from S to N there will be very little effect if it moves paralel thats a different story..
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Fay

#5060 Postby johngaltfla » Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:28 am

hurricanefloyd5 wrote:chances of FAY pull a Charile Strength wise when it gets into the GOMEX is what???????


Depends on the forward speed. I'll defer to the pros but once it hits the shallow 88-90 degree waters off our coast, should it follow the WC of Florida, then all bets are off. Charlie dived in pressure and skyrocketed in wind strength in less than 4 hours catching everyone here by surprise.
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