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Re: RE: Re: ATL: LEE - Models

#521 Postby Teban54 » Wed Sep 06, 2023 6:33 pm

jlauderdal wrote:
TheDreamTraveler wrote:Pretty huge shift there lol

https://twitter.com/webberweather/status/1699562532397363291
There is a reason its called the gfs happy hour, give it a cycle or two and reality will return.

The tweet shows 8 runs, only 2 of which are 18z runs. Even if you take them out, the general trend is still SW.
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#522 Postby cheezyWXguy » Wed Sep 06, 2023 6:38 pm

jlauderdal wrote:
TheDreamTraveler wrote:Pretty huge shift there lol

https://twitter.com/webberweather/status/1699562532397363291
There is a reason its called the gfs happy hour, give it a cycle or two and reality will return.

The reason that term came about was because years ago the 18z used to get fed the least amount of new data of all four runs in a given day, resulting in reduced accuracy relative to the other runs. However, this hasn’t really been a thing in the last 10 years or so
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Re: ATL: LEE - Models

#523 Postby MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS » Wed Sep 06, 2023 6:44 pm

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:Yeah...

Cut-off low to the west moving SE, ridge building over... this is not a "fish" scenario.

https://i.imgur.com/zWDOK6V.png


Those of us who live in Bermuda know that there are very few true fish in the North Atlantic.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Models

#524 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Wed Sep 06, 2023 7:15 pm

I think the westward shift is due to the fact that run to run the trough cut off over the SE has been trending further west. Three runs ago it had it extended to the coast. Now it is much further west
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Re: ATL: LEE - Models

#525 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Wed Sep 06, 2023 7:24 pm

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Re: ATL: LEE - Models

#526 Postby Iceresistance » Wed Sep 06, 2023 7:26 pm



Wasn't this already posted earlier?
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Re: RE: Re: ATL: LEE - Models

#527 Postby ColdMiser123 » Wed Sep 06, 2023 7:26 pm

cheezyWXguy wrote:
jlauderdal wrote:
TheDreamTraveler wrote:Pretty huge shift there lol

https://twitter.com/webberweather/status/1699562532397363291
There is a reason its called the gfs happy hour, give it a cycle or two and reality will return.

The reason that term came about was because years ago the 18z used to get fed the least amount of new data of all four runs in a given day, resulting in reduced accuracy relative to the other runs. However, this hasn’t really been a thing in the last 10 years or so


Yep, when you look at the 10-year historical accuracy of the 4 GFS runs for a week out, there is almost no difference among runs.

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Re: ATL: LEE - Models

#528 Postby LarryWx » Wed Sep 06, 2023 7:45 pm

1)
Last 6 EPS runs (0Z and 12Z only): # of members with CONUS H landfall


12Z 9/6: 3 (6%) (ME 9/15 & 9/17, MA 9/18)
0Z 9/6: 5 (10%)
12Z 9/5: 2 (4%)
0Z 9/5: 4 (8%)
12Z 9/4: 1 (2%)
0Z 9/4: 2 (4%)

So, the latest run dropped from 10% to 6%. The chance remains low.

2) 18Z Euro 72 is ~75 miles NE of the 12Z at 78
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Re: ATL: LEE - Models

#529 Postby Blown Away » Wed Sep 06, 2023 8:05 pm

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GFS is the king of modeling fujiwhara hurricanes.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Models

#530 Postby Dsci4 » Wed Sep 06, 2023 8:30 pm

Blown Away wrote:[url]https://i.postimg.cc/sgVZdP5C/gfs-mslp-pcpn-atl-fh6-384.gif [/url]

GFS is the king of modeling fujiwhara hurricanes.


Fujiwhara special but all I can look at is a 984mb storm sitting just north of the islands under a high pressure ridge :P
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Re: RE: Re: ATL: LEE - Models

#531 Postby jlauderdal » Wed Sep 06, 2023 8:46 pm

Dsci4 wrote:
Blown Away wrote:[url]https://i.postimg.cc/sgVZdP5C/gfs-mslp-pcpn-atl-fh6-384.gif [/url]

GFS is the king of modeling fujiwhara hurricanes.


Fujiwhara special but all I can look at is a 984mb storm sitting just north of the islands under a high pressure ridge :P
But its run to run accuracy has improved
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Re: ATL: LEE - Models

#532 Postby Ianswfl » Wed Sep 06, 2023 8:50 pm

18z GFS ensembles another SW shift.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Models

#533 Postby TheDreamTraveler » Wed Sep 06, 2023 9:16 pm

Here's a better look at the 12z Euro from earlier with the 500mb at the end of its run. Really interested to see what the 0z shows later tonight. It's also funny that the euro was showing it moving northeast and out a few days ago and now the end of its run is showing it moving northwest towards the coast. And yet some people will still say this storm is a done deal and isn't effecting anyone. This is going to be a long week lol

 https://twitter.com/WeatherNut27/status/1699377900527493139


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Re: ATL: LEE - Models

#534 Postby IsabelaWeather » Wed Sep 06, 2023 10:02 pm

To add credit to the model trends today, the NHC discussion at 11pm EDT nudged their track west from day 3 on.

This is getting interesting here, if the ridge build in a bit more PR could get into some of the rain bands which would be exciting as long as the core stays off shore.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Models

#535 Postby ThunderForce » Wed Sep 06, 2023 10:02 pm

These shifts in the model ensembles today are concerning to say the least.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Models

#536 Postby Tekken_Guy » Wed Sep 06, 2023 10:17 pm

How is NJ looking?
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Re: ATL: LEE - Models

#537 Postby Hybridstorm_November2001 » Wed Sep 06, 2023 10:17 pm

Blown Away wrote:[url]https://i.postimg.cc/sgVZdP5C/gfs-mslp-pcpn-atl-fh6-384.gif [/url]

GFS is the king of modeling fujiwhara hurricanes.


I love this run. :sun: Hopefully, it will keep trending further SE with time and miss all coastal locations then head OTS.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Models

#538 Postby SouthFLTropics » Wed Sep 06, 2023 10:21 pm

For what it’s worth, 00z ICON is slower and further south than the 18z.


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Re: ATL: LEE - Models

#539 Postby SouthFLTropics » Wed Sep 06, 2023 10:31 pm

ICON brings this north of Puerto Rico and slows it down to a crawl… barely moving.


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Re: ATL: LEE - Models

#540 Postby IcyTundra » Wed Sep 06, 2023 10:35 pm

Tekken_Guy wrote:How is NJ looking?


Too early to say but people in NJ need to keep an eye on Lee for sure. Hopefully by the end of the weekend we will have a better idea of what Lee will do.
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