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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#5301 Postby Emmett_Brown » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:06 am

Question to the pros and serious amateurs out there... just eyeballing the recon data, and it seems like the radius of hurricane force winds is a little larger than the 40 mile radius mentioned in the 8am advisory. The radius appears to have expanded since the eye wall replacement cycle. Any thoughts?
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#5303 Postby Bluespider » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:08 am

what are the chances the eye crosses 80w and actually touches the central Florida coast?
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#5304 Postby AdamFirst » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:08 am

Emmett_Brown wrote:Question to the pros and serious amateurs out there... just eyeballing the recon data, and it seems like the radius of hurricane force winds is a little larger than the 40 mile radius mentioned in the 8am advisory. The radius appears to have expanded since the eye wall replacement cycle. Any thoughts?

I'd say that's pretty evident. ERC & land interaction is key for an expanding wind field.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#5305 Postby AdamFirst » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:09 am

Bluespider wrote:what are the chances the eye crosses 80w and actually touches the central Florida coast?


Pretty high - not guaranteed chances, mind you, but even if the eye is 25-50 miles off shore central Florida it'll likely bring hurricane conditions or just below that to the coastline.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#5306 Postby jdjaguar » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:11 am

I have found this site to be quite interesting in discerning wind patterns.

https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/w ... thographic
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#5307 Postby xironman » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:11 am

stormchasr wrote:
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weathaguyry wrote:So, for a few days we have been talking about that if 15L/Nicole forms, she would weaken the ridge, and hurl Matthew right out to sea, now she has an 80% chance of developing, and I haven't heard much about it, will Nicole weaken the ridge, or will she not really have much affect at all?


It was mentioned briefly on TWC but they said it wouldn't have any effect. I don't know if thats accurate or not.


I don't believe it is accurate. Based on WV satellite you can already see that Matthew will likely recurve and remain east of the forecast. The high pressure does not look to be building so much. My opinion, though pretty obvious.


With the two most accurate dynamic models saying no, I would put this as a low probability event.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#5308 Postby Soonercane » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:11 am

stormchasr wrote:
eastcoastFL wrote:
weathaguyry wrote:So, for a few days we have been talking about that if 15L/Nicole forms, she would weaken the ridge, and hurl Matthew right out to sea, now she has an 80% chance of developing, and I haven't heard much about it, will Nicole weaken the ridge, or will she not really have much affect at all?


It was mentioned briefly on TWC but they said it wouldn't have any effect. I don't know if thats accurate or not.


I don't believe it is accurate. Based on WV satellite you can already see that Matthew will likely recurve and remain east of the forecast. The high pressure does not look to be building so much. My opinion, though pretty obvious.


To be fair most models didn't really build in the ridge too much in the short term with the most dramatic westward expansion occurring tomorrow. I agree with your theory though I can't see a mid-atlantic ridge being that strong in October.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#5309 Postby Bluespider » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:12 am

AdamFirst wrote:
Bluespider wrote:what are the chances the eye crosses 80w and actually touches the central Florida coast?


Pretty high - not guaranteed chances, mind you, but even if the eye is 25-50 miles off shore central Florida it'll likely bring hurricane conditions or just below that to the coastline.


Ok, Thank you... I'm in Brevard County about 3 miles inland, watching this intently... :(
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#5310 Postby nativefloridian » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:13 am

Short video of Matthew as seen from the Space Station....pretty awesome!

http://www.express.co.uk/news/weather/7 ... orida-hits

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#5311 Postby SouthFLTropics » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:14 am

Matthew is about to pop out over open water once again. His trek across the Tiburon Peninsula appears to have done very minor damage to the core.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#5312 Postby jdjaguar » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:15 am

Bluespider wrote:
AdamFirst wrote:
Bluespider wrote:what are the chances the eye crosses 80w and actually touches the central Florida coast?


Pretty high - not guaranteed chances, mind you, but even if the eye is 25-50 miles off shore central Florida it'll likely bring hurricane conditions or just below that to the coastline.


Ok, Thank you... I'm in Brevard County about 3 miles inland, watching this intently... :(


deciding today whether to go down to Vero Beach and board up my mom's house.

she lives 2 blocks from the ocean on the barrier island.

not liking the current position of closest approach as that may put the strongest winds directly over her.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#5313 Postby lhpfish » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:16 am

What time does the next model set come out? What is the schedule for models?
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#5314 Postby Emmett_Brown » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:17 am

SouthFLTropics wrote:Matthew is about to pop out over open water once again. His trek across the Tiburon Peninsula appears to have done very minor damage to the core.


The next recon pass should be very interesting. Wondering if it will be far enough off shore to get a vortex message. The IR sat pic definitely looks like the eye got disrupted a bit, but looks can be deceiving.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#5315 Postby AutoPenalti » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:17 am

lhpfish wrote:What time does the next model set come out? What is the schedule for models?

GFS at 11:30
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#5316 Postby JaxGator » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:18 am

SouthFLTropics wrote:Matthew is about to pop out over open water once again. His trek across the Tiburon Peninsula appears to have done very minor damage to the core.


Perhaps an indicator on how well-established the core is or not being over land that long. The sooner, the better for Haiti, though they will still have to endure the south-quad (backside).
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#5317 Postby AdamFirst » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:20 am

lhpfish wrote:What time does the next model set come out? What is the schedule for models?


NAM releases at 11ish
GFS starts at 11:30
UKMET, CMC shortly after GFS
HWRF/GFDL/NAVGEM around 12:30-1
EURO starts at 1:45
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#5318 Postby Blown Away » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:22 am

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Rare October CONUS hit from the SE if it happens...
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#5319 Postby AdamFirst » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:23 am

Jim Edds is currently in Exuma, The Bahamas. Expect good videos from him.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#5320 Postby jlauderdal » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:26 am

jdjaguar wrote:
Bluespider wrote:
AdamFirst wrote:
Pretty high - not guaranteed chances, mind you, but even if the eye is 25-50 miles off shore central Florida it'll likely bring hurricane conditions or just below that to the coastline.


Ok, Thank you... I'm in Brevard County about 3 miles inland, watching this intently... :(


deciding today whether to go down to Vero Beach and board up my mom's house.

she lives 2 blocks from the ocean on the barrier island.

not liking the current position of closest approach as that may put the strongest winds directly over her.


vero beach is definitely in the zone..if i lived there shutters would be going up now
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