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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav in Central Caribbean Sea

#5381 Postby Sabanic » Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:45 pm

ROCK wrote:slight west bend in this package as depicted by some of the models......might be a trend we shall see...


Yup startin to look like we here may get to relax a bit more. Definitely a west trend by all models. I can handle that for sure.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav in Central Caribbean Sea

#5382 Postby tolakram » Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:45 pm

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So why are the winds in Kingston still out of the east while the pressure has been rising?

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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav in Central Caribbean Sea

#5383 Postby Sanibel » Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:46 pm

Just a point:

When Gus weakened over Haiti 95L finally developed. When Hanna was blown-off by shear this afternoon Gus did an excellent rebound and structural improvement. Tonight Gus is hung up on Jamaica and weak. Hanna is flaring deep IR.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav in Central Caribbean Sea

#5384 Postby ROCK » Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:47 pm

vaffie wrote:It seems the NHC is going with the idea too--slowing down the storm significantly and turning it westbound at the end. Very concerning to say the least.



yep 18Z GFS saw this today after Gus made landfall..NOGAPS is surely seeing it (to the extreme), UKMET is sniffing it, GFDL hasnt moved in months.. :lol: ....I wondering what the 0z GFS is going to do.....
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#5385 Postby pablolopez26 » Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:47 pm

My cone of discertainty ranges from Corpus all the way to New Orleans as of right now. Anybody along these areas should be vigilant of Gustavs progress.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav in Central Caribbean Sea

#5386 Postby tolakram » Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:48 pm

I think it's possible the center of Gustav is south of Kingston rather than southwest. It's very possible the Kingston wind gauge is unreliable though.

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#5387 Postby mvtrucking » Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:50 pm

This track has been on La for days, we have seen it move east then west, but has been pretty much in the same area. Will probably trend back east tomorrow? Just a guess.
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#5388 Postby Stormcenter » Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:52 pm

mvtrucking wrote:This track has been on La for days, we have seen it move east then west, but has been pretty much in the same area. Will probably trend back east tomorrow? Just a guess.



TX/LA border landfall?
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#5389 Postby 6SpeedTA95 » Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:53 pm

Stormcenter wrote:
mvtrucking wrote:This track has been on La for days, we have seen it move east then west, but has been pretty much in the same area. Will probably trend back east tomorrow? Just a guess.



TX/LA border landfall?

ohhh man I hope not...It either needs to go wayyyy west (corpus) or further south or it needs to go Florida...
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#5390 Postby Sabanic » Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:54 pm

Stormcenter wrote:
mvtrucking wrote:This track has been on La for days, we have seen it move east then west, but has been pretty much in the same area. Will probably trend back east tomorrow? Just a guess.



TX/LA border landfall?


Or Texas alone?? Models sure are headed that way for now. At least the NHC is.
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#5391 Postby Weatherfreak000 » Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:55 pm

Just remember guys that bend at the end of the forecast is +FIVE DAYS OUT.


Wouldn't wanna see anyone getting CARRIED AWAY with the assumptions...last GFS, GFDL and EURO show the system doing the opposite of what you see now. Not to mention our Pro Met Derek's lastest forecast doesn't agree.


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#5392 Postby cheezyWXguy » Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:56 pm

Sabanic wrote:
Stormcenter wrote:
mvtrucking wrote:This track has been on La for days, we have seen it move east then west, but has been pretty much in the same area. Will probably trend back east tomorrow? Just a guess.



TX/LA border landfall?


Or Texas alone?? Models sure are headed that way for now. At least the NHC is.

Yes I am beginning to worry about an upper TX coast landfall now. Note on the new track the bend west. If this goes only a little slower than forecast, it could mean a landfall significantly further west than currently projected.
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#5393 Postby pablolopez26 » Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:59 pm

cheezyWXguy wrote:...this goes only a little slower than forecast, it could mean a landfall significantly further west than currently projected.


I agree 100%.

Any slow down on Gustavs part could mean significant changes to the track.

But i do agree that the models have been swinging east and west thoughout the day today.

Just focus on the cone is what i say.
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#5394 Postby 6SpeedTA95 » Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:00 pm

pablolopez26 wrote:
cheezyWXguy wrote:...this goes only a little slower than forecast, it could mean a landfall significantly further west than currently projected.


I agree 100%.

Any slow down on Gustavs part could mean significant changes to the track.

But i do agree that the models have been swinging east and west thoughout the day today.

Just focus on the cone is what i say.

And yesterday, and the day before, I've been downloading model pages every so often and saving them to see how much they change, they're basically dancing east west a couple hundred miles each model run with landfall somewhere between TX/LA and Pensacola...although the latest runs could shift that a bit further west.
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#5395 Postby O Town » Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:02 pm

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#5396 Postby pablolopez26 » Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:02 pm

Yeah, i dont think we wont know anything for certain (model wise)until Sunday. Dependant upon how fast Gustav moves west.
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#5397 Postby CajunMama » Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:03 pm

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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Gustav in Central Caribbean Sea

#5398 Postby Brent » Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:03 pm

HOWEVER...IT WOULD BE NO SURPRISE IF RAPID
INTENSIFICATION OCCURRED AND GUSTAV BECAME A CATEGORY 4 OR 5
HURRICANE
BY 72 HR.
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#5399 Postby Stormcenter » Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:03 pm

Weatherfreak000 wrote:Just remember guys that bend at the end of the forecast is +FIVE DAYS OUT.


Wouldn't wanna see anyone getting CARRIED AWAY with the assumptions...last GFS, GFDL and EURO show the system doing the opposite of what you see now. Not to mention our Pro Met Derek's lastest forecast doesn't agree.


:wink:


No offense to anyone but I'm sticking with the NHC's tracks. They've been in the business a long long time.
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#5400 Postby Just Joshing You » Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:04 pm

NOT MY FORECAST, FROM NHC!

THE SHIPS MODEL CALLS FOR A PEAK INTENSITY OF 99
KT...THE LGEM MODEL 94 KT...THE GFDL 111 KT...AND THE HWRF 137 KT.
THE LATTER IS DEFINITELY NOT OUT OF THE QUESTION. THE INTENSITY
FORECAST IS INCREASED OVER THE PREVIOUS FORECAST IN BEST AGREEMENT
WITH THE GFDL. HOWEVER...IT WOULD BE NO SURPRISE IF RAPID
INTENSIFICATION OCCURRED AND GUSTAV BECAME A CATEGORY 4 OR 5
HURRICANE BY 72 HR.


http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MI ... 0301.shtml
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