ATL: Tropical Depression Dolly

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#5481 Postby HarlequinBoy » Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:30 pm

Just be patient. Just because it isn't bombing out right now doesn't mean it should be written off or played down.
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#5482 Postby jasons2k » Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:32 pm

wx247 wrote:By the way, regarding the dry air/no dry air argument...

I posed the question to Derek. Here was his reply:

not dry air.. its core is just disrupted after impacting the Yucatan

that may take another 12 hours to fully recover

also... the intensification is not expected to fully begin until tomorrow


Thank you, thank you, thank you! Now I can stop ;-)
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Southern Gulf of Mexico

#5483 Postby tpr1967 » Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:32 pm

Dolly has been spitting out an outflow boundrie on the south side convection 1-2 hours ago.
That can't be good for organization in the short term.
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#5484 Postby mattpetre » Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:33 pm

Watch the tone change now that this next set of convection is about to start popping just west of and over the center.
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Southern Gulf of Mexico

#5485 Postby WmE » Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:33 pm

'CaneFreak wrote:
Swimdude wrote:Let us remember that the NHC itself is only forecasting a 10 kt increase in strength in the next 8 hours or so. (From the 11 a.m. advisory). We shouldn't expect rapid intensification in the middle of July, like we saw with Rita, Katrina, etc...


So the fact that it is the middle of July is a limiting factor for rapid intensification? I think not. Look at Dennis in 2005. It was mid-July. Went from a cat 2 to a 4 in several hours.


Look at Bertha! From Cat 1 to Cat 3 in a few hours. With much less heat content. I don't say that Bertha will strengthen tha much but RI is definitly possible in July.
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Southern Gulf of Mexico

#5486 Postby 'CaneFreak » Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:34 pm

tpr1967 wrote:Dolly has been spitting out an outflow boundrie on the south side convection 1-2 hours ago.
That can't be good for organization in the short term.


Link to that?
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#5487 Postby KWT » Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:37 pm

As derek said the inner core was left pretty messy and it indeed may not have had much of an inner core about 12hrs ago so until this can develop a bette rinner core we won't see much strengthening...however look at the good banding features, its a healthy and large storm other then that and one that IMo has the shape that just needs a big lump of convection to get going.
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Southern Gulf of Mexico

#5488 Postby TexWx » Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:38 pm

Man NHC was dead on track.
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Southern Gulf of Mexico

#5489 Postby tpr1967 » Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:39 pm

see any visible loop a few hours long.
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Southern Gulf of Mexico

#5490 Postby Normandy » Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:39 pm

Also, for those who keep saying the center is moving due west and what not, it really isnt. It moving at a good WNW headiing.
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Southern Gulf of Mexico

#5491 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:42 pm

Anyone can get the pro mets analysis of Dolly at the thread in Tropical Analysis forum.You wont see the wobble wars there. :)
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Southern Gulf of Mexico

#5492 Postby tpr1967 » Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:42 pm

Sorry guys i am not to good with posting links just yet.
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Southern Gulf of Mexico

#5493 Postby 'CaneFreak » Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:43 pm

tpr1967 wrote:see any visible loop a few hours long.


the visible a few hours ago didn't show any outflow boundaries....sorry...maybe you are just confused as to what an outflow boundary really is....google it and let me know... :wink:
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#5494 Postby KWT » Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:43 pm

If I had to guess the current heading it'd be close to 285, maybe 290, its close to a WNW track though and not westerly like some seem to believe.

Canrfreak, I see outflow boundary coming out of the southern side in the last couple of hours but convection has held so far.
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#5495 Postby GeneratorPower » Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:44 pm

What in the world is this thing I see on IR? It takes up the whole Gulf of Mexico and looks like a giant mushroom. What is going on here. It doesn't look like anything I've every seen.
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Southern Gulf of Mexico

#5496 Postby tpr1967 » Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:44 pm

Should be interesting to see what the obs will be like with in the next 24 hours at this bouy.

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=42002
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Southern Gulf of Mexico

#5497 Postby dwg71 » Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:45 pm

Normandy wrote:Also, for those who keep saying the center is moving due west and what not, it really isnt. It moving at a good WNW headiing.


WNW is pretty accurate 290 or so. Latest Recon trip showed a 42 minute north increase from first to last VDM and a 93 Minute W movement.
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#5498 Postby wx247 » Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:45 pm

GeneratorPower wrote:What in the world is this thing I see on IR? It takes up the whole Gulf of Mexico and looks like a giant mushroom. What is going on here. It doesn't look like anything I've every seen.


It is just a strong tropical wave. JUST KIDDING!

I am anxiously awaiting the discussion at 4.
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Southern Gulf of Mexico

#5499 Postby tpr1967 » Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:45 pm

I live in florida. I know what an outflow boundrie is. :wink:
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#5500 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:46 pm

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