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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#5541 Postby Wx_Warrior » Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:24 pm

^^^west side of the storm. Remember, East = dirty.
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#5542 Postby cpdaman » Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:27 pm

why did nobody post the 24hr euro?

unless i'm losin it lol. could someone please post it, thank you
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#5543 Postby Wx_Warrior » Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:32 pm

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#5544 Postby jes » Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:34 pm

If the Euro is taking more of an Eastern track once it goes inland, does it mean that the longer Isaac sits in the gulf the better chance of a more Eastern track at land fall?
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#5545 Postby Shawee » Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:47 pm

nashrobertsx wrote:Where is the OBS page? Doesnt seem like a lot of postings on there.


viewtopic.php?f=59&t=113366&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=7320

Nash, Here is a link to the discussion thread. It is usually more active in models" then this... I suspect most are making preparations themselves. The recent "breakout" of the models towards the west, while NHC (and Isaac I think) are sticking to the forcasted track. Much talk in "discussions" on stall/drift/shift... though the last official NHC observation showed up N 0.3 and W only 0.1. I like the human eyes over @ NHC on this one, and greatly respect many of the pro's and knowledgeable folks that post here.


http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/eaus/flash-wv.html

question: Does anyone else think that the stalled front N. of us will have any bearing on possible intensification (or hopefully lack thereof) or direction or if this plays into the NHC track holding steady versus what some of the latest models trend?
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#5546 Postby Wx_Warrior » Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:03 pm

HWRF 12z 24H

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#5547 Postby Senobia » Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:04 pm

Shawee wrote:
question: Does anyone else think that the stalled front N. of us will have any bearing on possible intensification (or hopefully lack thereof) or direction or if this plays into the NHC track holding steady versus what some of the latest models trend?


I'd say it does. He kind of has to wait for the front to let him pass, which allows him more time over water to intensify and dictates a W motion because the door to the N would be shut by the front.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#5548 Postby Wx_Warrior » Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:05 pm

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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#5549 Postby Wthrman13 » Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:08 pm

The last few runs of the HRRR have been showing a pronounced southwest wobble to begin sometime this afternoon, causing Isaac to parallel the coast rather than continuing NW to landfall. I haven't ever followed the HRRR for tropical cyclones before, so don't have a good feel for how well it does for short-term track forecasting. It will be interesting to watch, though. We'll know in a few hours! :)
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#5550 Postby DonWrk » Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:11 pm

Wthrman13 wrote:The last few runs of the HRRR have been showing a pronounced southwest wobble to begin sometime this afternoon, causing Isaac to parallel the coast rather than continuing NW to landfall. I haven't ever followed the HRRR for tropical cyclones before, so don't have a good feel for how well it does for short-term track forecasting. It will be interesting to watch, though. We'll know in a few hours! :)


I saw that. That's exactly what I was seeing and asking because it seems to just track it west along the coast. Didn't know how much weight the rapid refresh would have in determining a system like this but I know it's pretty spot on for wondering what the radar should like like a few hours ahead!
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#5551 Postby CYCLONE MIKE » Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:13 pm

Wow if the euro and hwrf are correct this thing will be sitting on top of se/s central LA for 48 hrs. Not good at all. Wonder what the 18z gfs will show?
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#5552 Postby gboudx » Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:13 pm

If that occurred, it would be in-line with the motion the GFS has shown since late last week; approaching the SELA coast, then meandering it westward along the coastline.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#5553 Postby HouTXmetro » Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:16 pm

Wthrman13 wrote:The last few runs of the HRRR have been showing a pronounced southwest wobble to begin sometime this afternoon, causing Isaac to parallel the coast rather than continuing NW to landfall. I haven't ever followed the HRRR for tropical cyclones before, so don't have a good feel for how well it does for short-term track forecasting. It will be interesting to watch, though. We'll know in a few hours! :)


Can someone provide a link to the HRRR model?
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#5554 Postby Wthrman13 » Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:19 pm

HouTXmetro wrote:
Wthrman13 wrote:The last few runs of the HRRR have been showing a pronounced southwest wobble to begin sometime this afternoon, causing Isaac to parallel the coast rather than continuing NW to landfall. I haven't ever followed the HRRR for tropical cyclones before, so don't have a good feel for how well it does for short-term track forecasting. It will be interesting to watch, though. We'll know in a few hours! :)


Can someone provide a link to the HRRR model?


http://ruc.noaa.gov/hrrr
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#5555 Postby gboudx » Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:19 pm

HouTXmetro wrote:Can someone provide a link to the HRRR model?


I use this website. http://rapidrefresh.noaa.gov/hrrrconus/
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#5556 Postby LSU2001 » Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:19 pm

I would like to see it as well
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#5557 Postby Shawee » Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:20 pm

Senobia wrote:
Shawee wrote:
question: Does anyone else think that the stalled front N. of us will have any bearing on possible intensification (or hopefully lack thereof) or direction or if this plays into the NHC track holding steady versus what some of the latest models trend?


I'd say it does. He kind of has to wait for the front to let him pass, which allows him more time over water to intensify and dictates a W motion because the door to the N would be shut by the front.



Thanks! I thought it could still be a possible player. Maybe a high will come nudge it (and it's dryness) down for us.
Ntxw made a great point also (in discussions):
HPC maps show the front in the SE is retreating and washing out. His hope for going north is the trough digging in the northeast extending enough south otherwise High over the central plains takes over - west.

http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/html/sfclo ... _test.html
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#5558 Postby Wthrman13 » Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:21 pm

gboudx wrote:
HouTXmetro wrote:Can someone provide a link to the HRRR model?


I use this website. http://rapidrefresh.noaa.gov/hrrrconus/


Yep, another (probably better) way to get to the same place. I've just got ruc.noaa.gov/hrrr burned into my neurons :)

In any case, I'll be keeping an eye on the runs this afternoon!
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#5559 Postby HouTXmetro » Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:23 pm

gboudx wrote:
HouTXmetro wrote:Can someone provide a link to the HRRR model?


I use this website. http://rapidrefresh.noaa.gov/hrrrconus/


Which is the link to the animation. I'm totally lost on that website. Don't know what to click.
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