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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#561 Postby cycloneye » Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:20 pm

MDR holding steady around +0.5C.

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#562 Postby cycloneye » Wed May 08, 2013 10:31 am

Big spike in the past few days in MDR. Let's see if the upward trend continues or it turns steady as it was before this recent spike.

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#563 Postby HurricaneFan » Wed May 08, 2013 12:47 pm

So has the NAO gone negative as forecasted?If so,how long will it stay negative?
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#564 Postby cycloneye » Wed May 08, 2013 1:04 pm

HurricaneFan wrote:So has the NAO gone negative as forecasted?If so,how long will it stay negative?


NAO has been positive for a while and will stay that way for now. This time the trade winds are confined to the subtropical Atlantic and not at the MDR.

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#565 Postby jinftl » Fri May 24, 2013 8:04 pm

Game on for South Florida water temps...up to 80 deg in many areas and nowhere to go but up :uarrow:

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#566 Postby gatorcane » Sun Jun 09, 2013 2:29 pm

Current SST graphic. You can see some cooler waters left behind by Andrea in the Eastern Gulf. Those should warm up rapidly over the next week or so with air temperatures into the 90s across the Southeastern U.S. and Florida:

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#567 Postby jinftl » Sun Jun 09, 2013 6:16 pm

The difference in overall SST in the tropical Atlantic on 6-8-13 vs. 6-8-12 is telling - from east of the Cape Verdes through the Caribbean Sea around Cuba and off the s.e. FL coast through most of the Gulf - the ocean is warmer. Could mean waves developing a few weeks earlier than normal in the Central Atlantic and storms that do form early season would have unsually warm water to tap into to strengthen.

The Gulf is always a bathtub by July - so is the NW Caribbean and up the SE U.S. coast - but seeing hundreds of miles of open ocean so warm is noteworthy. Follow 15N latitude line from Cape Verde to Central America this year vs last.


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#568 Postby TheStormExpert » Sun Jun 09, 2013 9:48 pm

:uarrow: I don't see all that much of a difference from those two images. Could you explain better?
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#569 Postby ROCK » Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:42 pm

:uarrow: significant difference...notice the darker areas are more abundant this year vs last year. Would like to see a comparison done with 2005 sst's....Will try to pull something together.
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#570 Postby jinftl » Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:52 pm

Some spots to reference:

10N 30W - 27C to 28C this year, 26C in 2012 - that's water that was 78F in 2012 that is now 81 or 82F.

15N 60W - 28C to 29C this year, 27C in 2012

25N 90W - 28C+ this year, 27C in 2012

Warmer water - even if 2 deg F equals more availability heat energy for storms to form and feed off of. Thousands of miles of water 2-3 deg F warmer than last year is significant - a storm that may have not intensified with 77 deg water (all other factors equal) could do a lot more intensification in 82 deg water



TheStormExpert wrote::uarrow: I don't see all that much of a difference from those two images. Could you explain better?
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#571 Postby JonathanBelles » Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:55 pm

The difference in the MDR is enough to possibly kick start the Cape-Verde season, which we may have already seen with 92L
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#572 Postby tolakram » Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:11 am

I don't think SSTs are the big story this year. We had plenty of potential in the MDR last year, but instability was lacking. This year slightly warmer SSTs, which will vary week to week, but most important is average to above average instability.
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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#573 Postby SFLcane » Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:14 am

tolakram wrote:I don't think SSTs are the big story this year. We had plenty of potential in the MDR last year, but instability was lacking. This year slightly warmer SSTs, which will vary week to week, but most important is average to above average instability.


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#574 Postby chaser1 » Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:09 pm

tolakram wrote:I don't think SSTs are the big story this year. We had plenty of potential in the MDR last year, but instability was lacking. This year slightly warmer SSTs, which will vary week to week, but most important is average to above average instability.


Agreed, not only has instability has been average to below average last year (and year prior too I think?), but then take into account the shear number of storms that formed last year?! Now, you take a more unstable MDR and things could get interesting. Though more newsworthy than the slightly higher SST's, that factor alone would be like tossing in a few more charcoal briskets, to an already hot BBQ!

Wind shear however, :double: , IF CONSISTENTLY PRESENT through most of the season, would certainly be a huge mitigating factor that could easily cut the number of named storms in half. Certainly would hold down the location and number of some major hurricane developing. Still too early to get a read on that though.
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#575 Postby gatorcane » Sat Jun 22, 2013 5:32 pm

Current SST map for the waters around Florida, looking quite warm:

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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#576 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Sat Jun 22, 2013 6:05 pm

chaser1 wrote:
tolakram wrote:I don't think SSTs are the big story this year. We had plenty of potential in the MDR last year, but instability was lacking. This year slightly warmer SSTs, which will vary week to week, but most important is average to above average instability.


Agreed, not only has instability has been average to below average last year (and year prior too I think?), but then take into account the shear number of storms that formed last year?! Now, you take a more unstable MDR and things could get interesting. Though more newsworthy than the slightly higher SST's, that factor alone would be like tossing in a few more charcoal briskets, to an already hot BBQ!

Wind shear however, :double: , IF CONSISTENTLY PRESENT through most of the season, would certainly be a huge mitigating factor that could easily cut the number of named storms in half. Certainly would hold down the location and number of some major hurricane developing. Still too early to get a read on that though.

Even reducing the wind shear interval down to 1 knot, which is insane, wind shear has not been much above-average. The MDR has been favorable. The TUTT is slightly stronger than usual, but still not enough to matter.

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#577 Postby ROCK » Sat Jun 22, 2013 10:06 pm

safe to say the GOM will only get hotter as we head into July....we are still in June and according to this map waters can support a major if conditions are right. :eek: :eek:

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#578 Postby gatorcane » Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:31 pm

Latest SSTs across the Western Atlantic and Caribbean:

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#579 Postby gatorcane » Tue Jul 02, 2013 3:53 pm

Latest anomalies as of July 1st:

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#580 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jul 10, 2013 7:32 am

Well folks, for the first time this year,the MDR sst anomalies fall to negative. Let's see when they rebound again but between the persistent sal and strong high pressure kicking up the trade winds have cause the waters to cool.

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