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#561 Postby northjaxpro » Fri Oct 23, 2015 1:38 am

NHC will probably go conservative a bit and place it at 170 kts, which is what I called for a few pages back. Still insane!! What an incredible tropical cyclone and she isn't done quite yet. Waiting on this last pass to see if Patricia can get Wilma's record.
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#562 Postby supercane4867 » Fri Oct 23, 2015 1:38 am

brunota2003 wrote:Please remember, just 12 hours ago, the surface winds and flight winds were the same. Given that nothing has changed (its still in bombing out phase), it doesn't necessarily surprise me that max flight level winds and SFMR winds are equal.

There's an interesting read from Jeff Masters a couple of years ago. Recon for Patricia can help conclude such theory perhaps

http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMa ... rynum=2083
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#563 Postby Yellow Evan » Fri Oct 23, 2015 1:39 am

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brunota2003 wrote:Please remember, just 12 hours ago, the surface winds and flight winds were the same. Given that nothing has changed (its still in bombing out phase), it doesn't necessarily surprise me that max flight level winds and SFMR winds are equal.

There's an interesting read from Jeff Masters a couple of years ago. Recon for Patricia can help conclude such theory perhaps

http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMa ... rynum=2083


That's why I'm leaning towards 180 knots and that the SFMR readings are legit.
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#564 Postby Kingarabian » Fri Oct 23, 2015 1:42 am

Looks like we will get another pass?
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#565 Postby tatertawt24 » Fri Oct 23, 2015 1:42 am

I think it actually looks a little better on satellite right now. :eek: The ring of black looks more circular and I think the eye might be smaller.
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Re: EPAC: PATRICIA - Hurricane

#566 Postby Yellow Evan » Fri Oct 23, 2015 1:43 am

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                    * EAST PACIFIC SHIPS INTENSITY FORECAST          *
                    * IR SAT DATA AVAILABLE,       OHC AVAILABLE     *
                    *  PATRICIA    EP202015  10/23/15  06 UTC        *

TIME (HR)          0     6    12    18    24    36    48    60    72    84    96   108   120
V (KT) NO LAND   165   177   175   156   132    92    67    52    42    37    29    24    24
V (KT) LAND      165   177   175   139    99    50    34    29    27    27    27    27    27
V (KT) LGE mod   165   165   152   136    89    46   DIS   DIS   DIS   DIS   DIS   DIS   DIS
Storm Type      TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP  TROP   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A

SHEAR (KT)         1     4    11    18    27    33   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A
SHEAR ADJ (KT)    -2     4     3     0     2     8   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A
SHEAR DIR        118   184   180   203   241   235   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A
SST (C)         30.5  30.5  30.5  30.5  30.6  30.0   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A
POT. INT. (KT)   170   170   171   172   173   168   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A
200 MB T (C)   -50.1 -50.4 -50.2 -50.3 -50.6 -50.4   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A
TH_E DEV (C)       9     9     9     9     8     8   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A
700-500 MB RH     68    63    58    56    54    53   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A
MODEL VTX (KT)    25    23    20    10     6  LOST  LOST  LOST  LOST  LOST  LOST  LOST  LOST
850 MB ENV VOR    52    72    72    92   113   100   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A
200 MB DIV       103   111    94    76    61    93   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A
700-850 TADV      -1    -8    -8    -8    11     7   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A
LAND (KM)        291   213   130    -6   -62  -361   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A
LAT (DEG N)     16.5  17.5  18.4  19.8  21.1  23.9   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A
LONG(DEG W)    105.4 105.6 105.7 105.2 104.6 102.5   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A
STM SPEED (KT)    10    10    12    14    15    17   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A   N/A
HEAT CONTENT      59    65    68    33    57     0     0     0     0     0     0     0     0

  FORECAST TRACK FROM OFCI      INITIAL HEADING/SPEED (DEG/KT):330/  9      CX,CY:  -3/  8
  T-12 MAX WIND: 115            PRESSURE OF STEERING LEVEL (MB):  528  (MEAN=581)
  GOES IR BRIGHTNESS TEMP. STD DEV.  50-200 KM RAD:   9.9 (MEAN=14.5)
  % GOES IR PIXELS WITH T < -20 C    50-200 KM RAD:  97.0 (MEAN=65.0)

                        INDIVIDUAL CONTRIBUTIONS TO INTENSITY CHANGE
                         6   12   18   24   36   48   60   72   84   96  108  120
                        ----------------------------------------------------------
  SAMPLE MEAN CHANGE     0.   0.   0.   1.   1.   1.   0.   0.  -1.  -1.  -2.  -2.
  SST POTENTIAL         -4.  -8. -12. -16. -27. -39. -49. -58. -68. -75. -80. -80.
  VERTICAL SHEAR MAG     0.  -2.  -5. -11. -21. -21. -18. -15. -13. -14. -15. -17.
  VERTICAL SHEAR ADJ     0.   0.   0.   0.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -2.  -2.
  VERTICAL SHEAR DIR     0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   1.   1.   1.   1.   1.   1.   0.
  PERSISTENCE           16.  23.  21.  16.   3.  -9. -14. -15. -13. -12. -10.  -8.
  200/250 MB TEMP.      -1.  -1.  -3.  -4.  -6.  -9. -12. -14. -16. -17. -17. -17.
  THETA_E EXCESS         0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.  -1.
  700-500 MB RH          0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   1.   1.   1.   1.   1.
  MODEL VTX TENDENCY     0.  -2. -12. -20. -24. -26. -27. -26. -26. -27. -26. -26.
  850 MB ENV VORTICITY   0.   0.   0.   1.   1.   2.   3.   4.   5.   6.   7.   8.
  200 MB DIVERGENCE      1.   1.   2.   2.   2.   3.   2.   2.   1.   0.  -1.  -3.
  850-700 T ADVEC        0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   1.
  ZONAL STORM MOTION     0.   0.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -2.  -2.  -2.  -2.  -2.  -2.  -2.
  STEERING LEVEL PRES    0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.
  DAYS FROM CLIM. PEAK   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.
  GOES PREDICTORS       -1.  -2.  -3.  -3.  -2.   1.   3.   4.   6.   8.   9.   8.
  OCEAN HEAT CONTENT     0.   1.   2.   3.   3.   2.   1.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.
                        ----------------------------------------------------------
  TOTAL CHANGE          12.  10.  -9. -33. -73. -98.-113.-123.-128.-136.-141.-141.
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#567 Postby Yellow Evan » Fri Oct 23, 2015 1:43 am

----- Current Analysis -----
Date : 23 OCT 2015 Time : 054500 UTC
Lat : 16:24:59 N Lon : 105:26:11 W


CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
7.3 / 914.0mb/149.0kt


Final T# Adj T# Raw T#
7.3 7.4 8.0

Estimated radius of max. wind based on IR :N/A km

Center Temp : +3.2C Cloud Region Temp : -79.8C
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#568 Postby supercane4867 » Fri Oct 23, 2015 1:45 am

Kingarabian wrote:Looks like we will get another pass?

Last pass coming up. They know this is a historic mission.
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#569 Postby RL3AO » Fri Oct 23, 2015 1:45 am

Just got home. Been following this on Twitter. Getting the same rush as I did that night with Wilma.
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Re: EPAC: PATRICIA - Hurricane

#570 Postby mrbagyo » Fri Oct 23, 2015 1:46 am

what an EIR i just witnessed. from TS to 892 mb cat 5...wow, definitely in the upper echelon of worldwide CAT 5s
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Re: EPAC: PATRICIA - Hurricane

#571 Postby Kingarabian » Fri Oct 23, 2015 1:48 am

mrbagyo wrote:what an EIR i just witnessed. from TS to 892 mb cat 5...wow, definitely in the upper echelon of worldwide CAT 5s


886mb ;).
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#572 Postby northjaxpro » Fri Oct 23, 2015 1:49 am

All I can say is WOW!!!!! Look at this beast!! The only other tropical cyclone to completely awestruck me like this storm is Wilma!!

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#573 Postby supercane4867 » Fri Oct 23, 2015 1:50 am

T7.5 from TAFB

EP, 20, 201510230545, 10, DVTS, CI, , 1650N, 10540W, , 1, 155, 2, 906, 2, DVRK, , , , , , , , , , , , , , E, TAFB, EC, I, 1, 7575 /////, , , GOES13, CSC, T, Data T=7.5. FT=7.0 per rules. Based on the rapid int
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#574 Postby Kingarabian » Fri Oct 23, 2015 1:50 am

WOWW. :uarrow:
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#575 Postby 1900hurricane » Fri Oct 23, 2015 1:50 am

As far as the random apparent warm-up seen on IR earlier, it does indeed seem to be a sat thing. Both ADTs have not appreciably changed with their CDO temp calculations.
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#576 Postby Yellow Evan » Fri Oct 23, 2015 1:50 am

NHC recognizes the 182:

EP, 20, 201510230601, 50, AIRC, CI, , 1647N, 10542W, , 2, 182, 2, 890, 1, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , KNHC, NHC, , 700, 2134, 182, 128, 6, 221, 180, 126, 5, 890, 12, 27, 10, , , CI, , 7, , , 10, 3, MAX FL WIND 180 KT 126 / 5 NM 06:00:30Z CNTR DROPS
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#577 Postby Cyclenall » Fri Oct 23, 2015 1:50 am

My jaw is now 30 feet under the floor...
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#578 Postby Kingarabian » Fri Oct 23, 2015 1:51 am

Yellow Evan wrote:NHC recognizes the 182:

EP, 20, 201510230601, 50, AIRC, CI, , 1647N, 10542W, , 2, 182, 2, 890, 1, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , KNHC, NHC, , 700, 2134, 182, 128, 6, 221, 180, 126, 5, 890, 12, 27, 10, , , CI, , 7, , , 10, 3, MAX FL WIND 180 KT 126 / 5 NM 06:00:30Z CNTR DROPS


Just the only logical thing to do. Kudos to the NHC.
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#579 Postby northjaxpro » Fri Oct 23, 2015 1:53 am

Yellow Evan wrote:NHC recognizes the 182:

EP, 20, 201510230601, 50, AIRC, CI, , 1647N, 10542W, , 2, 182, 2, 890, 1, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , KNHC, NHC, , 700, 2134, 182, 128, 6, 221, 180, 126, 5, 890, 12, 27, 10, , , CI, , 7, , , 10, 3, MAX FL WIND 180 KT 126 / 5 NM 06:00:30Z CNTR DROPS


Yes, NHC did confirm, as I was hoping they would!!
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#580 Postby brunota2003 » Fri Oct 23, 2015 1:53 am

Technically, the Dvorak only goes to 8.0 (170 knots), however the raw T number from ADT has been bouncing between 8.0-8.3 for a while. 8.3 would roughly equal 179 knots, if I did my math correct.
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