ATL: HARVEY - Post-Tropical - Discussion

[Steve]

Yeah. Y'all are stuck with an onshore flow regardless of what happens in the next couple of days with the center. Anyone caught under the feeds will be setting daily records. Hopefully GCANE or 1900 can keep us up to date on CAPE and water volume indexes.

One in a million storm.

[jabman98]

I would think it's highly likely it will be worse than Allison, but I'm no expert or based there.

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Allison was 30 inches of rain. So that's what would have to be topped.

RE: Allison comparisons:
https://twitter.com/JeffLindner1/status ... 2165164034
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Turkey Creek exceeding TS Allison water levels...many homes flooding #houwx #hounews

[Blinhart]

And it is already 2 Billion in damage, luckily only 2 deaths so far.

[RachelAnna]

I'm in cypress and we are currently getting about an inch an hour. No tornado activity for a few hours now. Raining but not so hard the drainage can't keep up. My yard is a swamp though!

[Ellsey]

I have a friend in the Friendswood/League City area, and she says they have a foot of water in the house already. Their whole subdivision is flooded, so everyone is stuck. Not a good situation at all.

[Alyono]

I would think it's highly likely it will be worse than Allison, but I'm no expert or based there.

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It's possible. That and Alicia are the modern benchmarks for tropical damage in Houston.

Allison put "black mold" on the map and also led to recovery limitations.

Ike was much worse than Alicia. Winds were much higher in downtown Houston

[Steve]

Winds might have been higher but the broken glass in so many high rises clearly led to better building codes. That news footage from 83 (?) is still some of the craziest I've seen. Ike wasnt a picnic in Houston (or near Houma where I was), but it's more a modern Galveston benchmark than a Houston one.

[Steve]

Oh and Alyono, even though this is the discussion thread, would you agree the European at 48 hours looks to be in a bad place for Galveston and Houston?
Low res has it emerging just a hair north of original landfall. That looks to keep Houston seriously under the gun with onshore feeder bands for at least 2 days so far.

[shah83]

Me, I'm just staring at the 05z hrrr...

Anyways... this is an important read...

https://projects.propublica.org/houston-cypress/

[Lobwedgephil]

Bayous in Houston can't take much more, and band 3 heading our way. Looking like a horrible night for many in Houston.

[BRweather]

Not sure if anyone noticed, but I believe the center has started drifting SSW

[ScottNAtlanta]

Tornado warning

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN LEAGUE CITY HAS ISSUED A * TORNADO WARNING FOR... WEST CENTRAL CHAMBERS COUNTY IN SOUTHEASTERN TEXAS... SOUTHEASTERN HARRIS COUNTY IN SOUTHEASTERN TEXAS... * UNTIL 200 AM CDT. * AT 132 AM CDT, A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A TORNADO WAS LOCATED NEAR SHOREACRES, OR NEAR LA PORTE, MOVING NORTHEAST AT 20 MPH. HAZARD... TORNADO. SOURCE... RADAR INDICATED ROTATION. IMPACT... FLYING DEBRIS WILL BE DANGEROUS TO THOSE CAUGHT WITHOUT SHELTER. MOBILE HOMES WILL BE DAMAGED OR DESTROYED. DAMAGE TO ROOFS, WINDOWS, AND VEHICLES WILL OCCUR. TREE DAMAGE IS LIKELY. * LOCATIONS IMPACTED INCLUDE... BAYTOWN AND BEACH CITY. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... TAKE COVER NOW! MOVE TO A BASEMENT OR AN INTERIOR ROOM ON THE LOWEST FLOOR OF A STURDY BUILDING. AVOID WINDOWS. IF YOU ARE OUTDOORS, IN A MOBILE HOME, OR IN A VEHICLE, MOVE TO THE CLOSEST SUBSTANTIAL SHELTER AND PROTECT YOURSELF FROM FLYING DEBRIS. TORNADOES ARE EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO SEE AND CONFIRM AT NIGHT. DO NOT WAIT TO SEE OR HEAR THE TORNADO. TAKE COVER NOW! && TORNADO... RADAR INDICATED HAIL... 0.00IN

[Alyono]

Oh and Alyono, even though this is the discussion thread, would you agree the European at 48 hours looks to be in a bad place for Galveston and Houston?
Low res has it emerging just a hair north of original landfall. That looks to keep Houston seriously under the gun with onshore feeder bands for at least 2 days so far.

about to go outside and scream some cusses at Harvey

[ScottNAtlanta]

Another Tornado Warning

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN LEAGUE CITY HAS ISSUED A * TORNADO WARNING FOR... EAST CENTRAL HARRIS COUNTY IN SOUTHEASTERN TEXAS... * UNTIL 145 AM CDT. * AT 125 AM CDT, A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A TORNADO WAS LOCATED OVER HOUSTON SHIP CHANNEL, OR OVER DEER PARK, MOVING NORTH AT 20 MPH. HAZARD... TORNADO. SOURCE... RADAR INDICATED ROTATION. IMPACT... FLYING DEBRIS WILL BE DANGEROUS TO THOSE CAUGHT WITHOUT SHELTER. MOBILE HOMES WILL BE DAMAGED OR DESTROYED. DAMAGE TO ROOFS, WINDOWS, AND VEHICLES WILL OCCUR. TREE DAMAGE IS LIKELY. * LOCATIONS IMPACTED INCLUDE... DEER PARK, HIGHLANDS, CHANNELVIEW, BARRETT, CLOVERLEAF, EASTERN HOUSTON SHIP CHANNEL, SAN JACINTO STATE PARK AND SHELDON. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... TAKE COVER NOW! MOVE TO A BASEMENT OR AN INTERIOR ROOM ON THE LOWEST FLOOR OF A STURDY BUILDING. AVOID WINDOWS. IF YOU ARE OUTDOORS, IN A MOBILE HOME, OR IN A VEHICLE, MOVE TO THE CLOSEST SUBSTANTIAL SHELTER AND PROTECT YOURSELF FROM FLYING DEBRIS. TORNADOES ARE EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO SEE AND CONFIRM AT NIGHT. DO NOT WAIT TO SEE OR HEAR THE TORNADO. TAKE COVER NOW! && TORNADO... RADAR INDICATED HAIL... 0.00IN

[PaulR]

KHOU advising people retreating into attics to escape the water to take an axe with them.

[ronyan]

Berry Bayou, I believe that is probably true. Those gauges are approaching 20".

[ScottNAtlanta]

There are 62 separate statements out from the NWS Houston. I dont think I have ever seen that many at one time issued by one office

[RL3AO]

We're seeing the worst flooding in a major US city since Katrina tonight. And it's been predicted for over three days now.

[benjammin]

If those lines converge I can see them dropping another 8-10 inches in a few hours.

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[ronyan]

If those lines converge I can see them dropping another 8-10 inches in a few hours.

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There is a third line developing in between the two larger ones.