ATL: ISAAC - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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#5841 Postby KWT » Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:35 am

No debating where the center is, this is not a 1005mb low, its a 989 high end TS and recon has got it. The IR apperence isn't a classic yet, still looks lopsided to me but recon is suggesting an eye is forming so its starting to get more organised, still a solid 6-9hrs away though till it starts to really pull things out of the bag IMO.
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#5842 Postby HurricaneAndrew92 » Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:36 am

Want to say"I'm tired, this thing will never get it's act together", but likely sooner than later it will.
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#5843 Postby GCANE » Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:36 am

Isaac is finally getting a good wrap of unstable air around him.

CAPE = 2000 in the core.

2500 on the west and south quads.

3000 to the NE

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/exper/mesoanaly ... sector=18#
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#5844 Postby rainstorm » Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:37 am

caneman wrote:And some that don't - many parts of Florida are saturated.


same here in virginia. total saturation. thats why i hope it moves as far west as possible.
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#5845 Postby mahi1720 » Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:41 am

I posted yesterday that it was going to bomb out. I of course was wrong. The way the CDO popped was amazing. I was shocked this morning to see it was still a TS. It really makes me appreciate what it takes to sustain a 4 or 5.
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#5846 Postby HurricaneAndrew92 » Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:41 am

I think winds should go up at 8. I'm probably wrong. Anybody?
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#5847 Postby tailgater » Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:42 am

GCANE wrote:Isaac is finally getting a good wrap of unstable air around him.

CAPE = 2000 in the core.

2500 on the west and south quads.

3000 to the NE

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/exper/mesoanaly ... sector=18#


I thought it looked better lately on the south side, any idea what it was around 12hrs ago?
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#5848 Postby HurricaneAndrew92 » Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:43 am

Stays at 65mph...again.It's dropped 7mb and it's still 65mph?
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#5849 Postby rainstorm » Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:44 am

GCANE wrote:Isaac is finally getting a good wrap of unstable air around him.

CAPE = 2000 in the core.

2500 on the west and south quads.

3000 to the NE

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/exper/mesoanaly ... sector=18#



good info, thanks.
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#5850 Postby HurrMark » Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:46 am

HurricaneAndrew92 wrote:Stays at 65mph...again.It's dropped 7mb and it's still 65mph?


It might take some time for the winds to react. I thought it would be bumped a little higher but I guess recon has not found winds that were reflective of a stronger storm.
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#5851 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:47 am

There have not been winds found by recon to support anything higher in intensity, yet.
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#5852 Postby Lane » Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:47 am

It looks like from the last couple frames of the AVN, that the north quad is being pulled north. Does anyone else that or do I need more coffee? Or possible expansion of center?
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#5853 Postby HurricaneAndrew92 » Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:47 am

HurrMark wrote:
HurricaneAndrew92 wrote:Stays at 65mph...again.It's dropped 7mb and it's still 65mph?


It might take some time for the winds to react. I thought it would be bumped a little higher but I guess recon has not found winds that were reflective of a stronger storm.

Is 12 hours long enough? 12 hours ago it was 995mb.
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#5854 Postby HurrMark » Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:49 am

HurricaneAndrew92 wrote:
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HurricaneAndrew92 wrote:Stays at 65mph...again.It's dropped 7mb and it's still 65mph?


It might take some time for the winds to react. I thought it would be bumped a little higher but I guess recon has not found winds that were reflective of a stronger storm.

Is 12 hours long enough? 12 hours ago it was 995mb.


Actually, 12 hours ago it was at 991, so it only dropped 3 mb. Still, I think this is the start of steadier deepening (not official).
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#5855 Postby GCANE » Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:49 am

tailgater wrote:
GCANE wrote:Isaac is finally getting a good wrap of unstable air around him.

CAPE = 2000 in the core.

2500 on the west and south quads.

3000 to the NE

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/exper/mesoanaly ... sector=18#


I thought it looked better lately on the south side, any idea what it was around 12hrs ago?


12 hrs ago, all the unstable air was to his NW.

He is now in it.
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#5856 Postby Kory » Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:49 am

Lane wrote:It looks like from the last couple frames of the AVN, that the north quad is being pulled north. Does anyone else that or do I need more coffee? Or possible expansion of center?

The storms are just expanding, so it gives it the appearance that it is getting pulled north. There is still a ridge in place north of the system, so it's not going to get pulled that far north.

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#5857 Postby KWT » Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:50 am

The problem is there is some dry air still coming into the E.quadrant, typically the stronger side. This system maybe one of those that requires a deeper pressure than normal to reach certain wind speeds, unless that eases up.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#5858 Postby iorange55 » Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:52 am

(this is coming from someone who really only knows about winter weather)

But, I do follow the tropical systems and it looks to me like Isaac is kind of "on track" intensity-wise...at least based on the official track it seems. The track has been calling for it to become a weak Cat 1 today, right? It looks like it will probably do that, and grow a little bit more. I think a strong Cat 1 when it hits the coast has been and continues to be the most reasonable forecast.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#5859 Postby Hyperstorm » Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:53 am

The following post is NOT an official forecast. Refer to the NHC for official information.

Remember everyone, Isaac was NOT supposed to strengthen significantly last night/early today. The main show was always late today through tomorrow night/early Wednesday. The EURO model from yesterday at 12z was showing this at 988 mb AT THIS HOUR (It's 989 according to Recon), so we're very close to that forecast.

IF in about 12 hours, this system shows NO signs of strengthening significantly, then we can assume that it's not going to, BUT I personally do see this system intensifying quite quickly starting tonight, especially if an eye starts to show up on IR.

When that eye pops out, ALL bets are off...as that usually signifies a significant pressure drop...
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#5860 Postby KWT » Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:54 am

Spot on Hyperstorm, its pretty much on track right now in terms of strengthening.

I do think the E.Quadrant looks a little bare still and unless that also changes I've got some doubts about just how quick the strengthening will occur, but these things can change in a matter of hours.
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